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 From:  Michael Gibson
2039.7 In reply to 2039.6 
Hi PaQ,

> (The double flip trick works too in modo :))

I believe that is a pretty solid indication that the problem with the OBJ import is not picking the starting vertex of the polygon in the spot that suits Modo best.

The way that Modo's (and LightWave's) orientation mechanism works, it only looks at the edges coming off of the very first point in the polygon, and uses the cross product of those edges to get the orientation of the polygon.

That is just not a good method to use, it is too fragile on more complex n-gons because if that first vertex happens to be a reflex vertex instead of a convex one, it will be pointing in the reverse direction, and additionally with this method the normal is not even defined at all if the 2 edges coming off of it are exactly colinear.

Instead of that it is a lot better to use Newell's plane fit algorithm which takes into account all the points in the polygon and is not so fragile to behave differently depending on which point happens to come first.

Really it would be better for them to fix this in Modo's core orientation mechanism (rather than in the OBJ importer specifically) to make that less sensitive to which point happens to be the starting one of the polygon, that would prevent this same problem from popping up in other situations as well.

- Michael
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 From:  PaQ
2039.8 
Well somehow modo = lightwave for many points finally ... it's an old concept in a new skin :)
Just get my copy of uvlayout yesterday, amazing piece of software for uv unwarping !

Works quiete well with ngones from MoI export (just had few crashes on some part, but it will be fixed soon I guess)



EDITED: 3 Feb 2010 by PAQ

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 From:  DannyT (DANTAS)
2039.9 In reply to 2039.8 
Nice origami work there PaQ ;)



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 From:  Michael Gibson
2039.10 In reply to 2039.8 
> Well somehow modo = lightwave for many points finally ...
> it's an old concept in a new skin :)

I'm glad that they've got vertex normal support now at least, even if it still has some rough edges to work out that has been a great step.


Wow, that looks like a very coherent and great quality mapping! Very cool.

Are the spaceships actually going to be newspaper spaceships or was that just a test?

- Michael
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 From:  PaQ
2039.11 In reply to 2039.10 
Hehe thanks, it's just a test to show the uv's quality (more funny than traditionnal checkerboard :))

(a bit off topic, Is it a way actually in MoI to show when a solid is not valid ? (open or broken one) ... actually I test it by doing some booleans in, but it's not very handy)
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
2039.12 
Original for read the news of the day :)
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 From:  WillBellJr
2039.13 
Great model, PAQ!

Heck, I sorta like using the newspaper for uv checking over a checker!

-Will
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 From:  PaQ
2039.14 In reply to 2039.13 
Thanks Will :)
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 From:  YANNADA
2039.15 In reply to 2039.14 

EDITED: 27 Nov 2008 by YANNADA

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 From:  Moe (THREEDFANATIC)
2039.16 
Very nice looking ship Paq. Love the detail as always.
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 From:  PaQ
2039.17 
So here's an other one, modeling time 8 hours.
The model was not really defined, so I was free to do more less what I want, the goal was just 'adding details as far as I can in one day'
I've still received a draft model, so the global shape has to fit in ... some kind of box .:o)



and here's the result, thanks to MoI is was really funny and the result is quiete ok (for something that wasn't designed :))




other models coming soon

EDITED: 3 Feb 2010 by PAQ

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 From:  WillBellJr
2039.18 In reply to 2039.17 
AWESOME detailing!

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 From:  steve (STEEVE)
2039.19 In reply to 2039.18 
very cool!
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
2039.20 
A new design of electric razor :)
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 From:  Brian (BWTR)
2039.21 In reply to 2039.20 
Very impressive.
Thanks for sharing.

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 From:  Michael Gibson
2039.22 In reply to 2039.17 
Cool Paq, great level of detail on your result!

Looks like you are getting to a high level of productivity to crunch out stuff like this in one daily session...

- Michael
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 From:  DannyT (DANTAS)
2039.23 In reply to 2039.17 
First thought, intergalactic cargo ship, love the details PaQ !

> other models coming soon

Same time, same channel, can't wait :)

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