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 From:  Fitz (3DARTZ)
2005.1 
Hey guys,
so I feel to be at the point where I can make an attempt at modeling
a car. This is just the front hood area, but wanted to share.
Will post more as I go!
Moi3d is proving very intuitive to use!

Mike Fitz
www.3dartz.com











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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
2005.2 
Nice beginning!
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Is beautiful that please without concept!
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 From:  jiro (MOIJIRO)
2005.3 In reply to 2005.1 
This looks really nice Mike. Also, excellent drawings.
I wanna design space ships so all the concepts here should also apply.
What are you rendering with?
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 From:  DannyT (DANTAS)
2005.4 In reply to 2005.1 
Very nice and clean modeling there Mike.
Keep it coming.

Cheers
~Danny~
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 From:  Denis (SPACELAND)
2005.5 In reply to 2005.2 
Wow that is a nice beginning.

Can't wait to see more!

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 From:  kevjon
2005.6 
A great start.

I'm looking forward to seeing this progress and develop.
~Kevin~
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 From:  marcorhino
2005.7 In reply to 2005.6 
Hi,

Very nice

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 From:  Fitz (3DARTZ)
2005.8 
Hey Guys,
thanks for the comments!

I'm learning as I'm going as far as trying to build more complex stuff in moi.
Now, this image might look like a step back from the previous... because it is :)

but I was having problems making the rest of the body of the car....
so I thought I'd try and make the whole body in the begining....
here is an image. if anyone see anything that might be a problem, please point it out.
thanks
Mike Fitz
www.3dartz.com


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 From:  kevjon
2005.9 
Not really sure why you had difficulties making the rest of the car as it seems you did the hard part (hood) really well. I'm very interested to see how you progress from here. I'm most interested to see if it is possible to create a realistic looking Audi with nurbs. If possible it would be great if you could post some of the problems you experienced creating certain shapes. Perhaps others can help or offer suggestions which would speed up your learning curve.
~Kevin~
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 From:  jiro (MOIJIRO)
2005.10 In reply to 2005.9 
Mike, Thanks for sharing how to model this car
from the beginning. Excellent, total pro work.
Helps the newbies!
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 From:  Fitz (3DARTZ)
2005.11 
Hey guys,
thanks so much for the comments!

Okay, so here are 3 images. I scrapped the body I did just before this because I wanted a single/simple surface.
In the first image, I created wires to be used with the network tool. In yellow. I did the roof seperate.




Here is the result:




I used wires to Trip the body detials and here is what I have so far. I will shell each piece and round next.




Will post more as I go. I will be using Electric Image to render the car when done.... just fyi:)

thanks for looking!
Mike Fitz
www.3dartz.com

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 From:  Moe (THREEDFANATIC)
2005.12 
Great start there can't wait to see the finished product. Take care.
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 From:  jiro (MOIJIRO)
2005.13 
Gorgeous work!!
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 From:  PaQ
2005.14 
Don't give up Mike ! (I have tried this TT exercise a lot of time, but never finish it :/)
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 From:  Fitz (3DARTZ)
2005.15 
Hey I built a Wheele!

Moi3d Really slowed down once I added the tire treads.
even after I turned off inflection and hidden lines....
anythoughts, or is it just what happens with all the little tread details?




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 From:  PaQ
2005.16 
Nice one !

Well I suppose that all the fillets from the tread details generate tons of geometry. I would suggest to fillet them at the end of your project, otherewise you will have some huge trouble to duplicate the wheels inside MoI :)

I was on the same boat few months ago, trying to fillet every single edges, but it's a no way to go actually. I don't know what will be you rendering engine, but for example in max, lightware and maya, there are some cool shaders that creates micro fillets at the rendering.
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 From:  Grendel
2005.17 
The same thing happens when you have a lot of threaded fasteners for an assembly. I've found it better to keep things like that in a separate file that you can import if you need to have everything in on file for some reason. I would leave your wheel model as a separate file and then import it.
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 From:  Michael Gibson
2005.18 In reply to 2005.15 
Hi Mike, it's a great looking result!

> Moi3d Really slowed down once I added the tire treads.
> even after I turned off inflection and hidden lines....
> anythoughts, or is it just what happens with all the little tread details?

If those are all a bunch of little teeny fillets, you've also got to adjust the "Mesh angle" parameter as well as the inflection setting.

Try setting Options / View / Meshing parameters / Mesh angle to 25 instead of the default 10, in addition to unchecking "Add detail to inflections".

Does that seem to help any?

Currently those little tiny fillets get meshed with an equal density as the larger surface, it just cranks out too huge of an amount of polygons.

It is definitely an area that I'm going to be working on improving.

Once you switch back to a more regular density model without a ton of little fillets, you will probably want to revert those settings back to the defaults so that you get a nice smoother display on regular density stuff.

Also just generally a ton of tiny fillets will drive up your file size and just general model weight quite considerably.

If you can use a render trick instead, that can help or you may actually want to try using a chamfer in small numerous spots like that instead of an actual rounded fillet, that will put a kind of bevel there but with a tiny flat piece which is not as heavy and if you are not zooming in real close to those spots it will probably look pretty equivalent, especially after you put textures and whatnot on the render.

- Michael
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 From:  Fitz (3DARTZ)
2005.19 
Hey everyone, thanks for the information on handling the larger file with tire treads...
I have seperate files for them now while I build everything.

I decided to make a new rim as the other one was a bit out there:)

heres a screen grab.
thanks
Mike Fitz


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 From:  Michael Gibson
2005.20 In reply to 2005.19 
Hi Mike, it's looking great!

If it is possible, can you please send me (moi@moi3d.com) the heaviest one that you made that had the most slowdown problem?

That would be a good test case for me when I get a chance on doing some tune ups to this area.

- Michael
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