I am making a little video with the complete concept
And after with training between each states I believe that 30 seconds is possible!
But it's more like a task than a comfortable exercise :)

Hi Pilou, yes, but what is your current time right now from start to finish?

- Michael

Something like you :)
but I have not all functions as a shortcut so take an icon is not speedy!
here the video ;)
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?0fwd4e2nz3m
unzip and launch toto.htm with your favorite navigator
(tell me if you can load it !

Hey Pilou,

You French must have some strong coffee over there, if you could model that fast I'd hire you on the spot ;)
Sketchup on steroids!!?

Cheers

Hi Pilou, I downloaded it but it seems that your capture is not a 1:1 "realtime" recording, I don't see any elapsed time shown and it seems to be recording only certain key frames, and skipping things like many mouse movements...

How much actual time does that take up?

My recording is an actual real-time recording, I mean every second that passes in the recording I showed above is an actual second of modeling time, not artificially faster like yours!!! ;) (That is cheating!!!!!!!)

- Michael

see the counter time clock watch on the right down corner of the screen 13 03, 13 04
I have not seen exactly when I started but that take less a minute and I don't make especially speedy moves only concept!
Sure it's not real time !
But I am not yet enough trained!

Hi Pilou,

> see the counter time on the right down corner of the screen 13 33, 13 34

Yeah, but that's very inaccurate - if you started at 13:03:00 and ended at 13:04:59 , that is possibly up to 1 minute 59 seconds.

Don't you have a watch? Just time yourself with a watch instead of doing the screen capture.

- Michael

I will try again with a Chronometre ;)

With many errors and hesitation 45 seconds!
So with a good training, a good tempo, I can make around 30 seconds!
But it's very sportive and not very relaxing! A very big pressure!

And I can win some seconds with icon's functions near the drawing on a flying panel!

I'm afraid scetchup has run into what MoI was intentionally designed for! It will never happen. Even if you practice and become repetitive with THIS model to get the time down, MoI user could practice the time down more also....

ClickCtrl+mAlt+e20ClickclickCtrl+lAlt+e15Shift+bClickClick!!!!!!!!!

1.4 Seconds!!!! :)

If the Modeling steps were changed around, then MoI would be back to quick and you would have to practice the new steps??

Watching with anticipation!

It's like a Clint Eastwood movie "The French, The MoI and of course me....The UGLY!" :)

Burr

ClickCtrl+mAlt+e20ClickclickCtrl+lAlt+e15Shift+bClickClick!!!!!!!!!

That looks like a MOI "Fatality" combo ;P)

Morality : make something under 30 seconds is not human *<:D

Hi Pilou,

> So with a good training, a good tempo, I can make around 30 seconds!

Hey, it's not definite until you prove it! :)

You can't claim 30 seconds unless you can do it in 30 seconds, until then you can only claim 45 seconds!!!! :)

Using a circle and boolean merge (instead of drawing an arc and using difference) I removed a few picks from the MoI solution - new world record in MoI = 34 seconds! (video below).

Also my system is kind of sluggish when running the screen capture, I would probably be able to go faster without the capturing on...

- Michael

Damned now I must have some lessons with Vladimir Horowitz :)

Hi Pilou,

> Damned now I must have some lessons with Vladimir Horowitz :)

One tricky part is timing the keys correctly with the mouse, you can't just hit the keys too fast!

I think I could get some more speed by doing some curve selections with a keyboard shortcut, but probably I should get back to work on MoI instead! :)

- Michael

I'll vote for that!
All this speed stuff just makes me feel bad ... like a retarded snail.
:)
eric

Ps 40 seconds new record ;)
but seems impossible to win again 10 seconds without new paradigm or new plugin!
The 5 separate constructions and pushing them individually are the obstacle!
And public want the new beta :D

Michael,

Congratulations on MOI. Its a great tool!

Tried the sketchup export in the beta and it worked fine but sketchy styles don't seem to render properly - the profile edges aren't rendered at all and you get a 'duplicate styles' message.

Tried Pilou's 3ds export->clean selection->soften edges approach and the sketchy styles in Sketchup rendered fine.

Hope this is an easy one to fix as the MOI->SU workflow is realy useful!

Simon

I must say that I love the SKP export its one of the reasons why I love to use Moi 3d.
But I run into some errors too and since the software is still in beta I want to post the problems that I run into ... !
like the surface of the mirrorholder is turned insed out and corners and edges with bevel that dont seem to come in
without problems

Hi rayman - can you please post a .3dm model file of your object so I can test with it over here?

You can also send it to me at moi@moi3d.com if you do not want to post it here.

It tends to be very difficult to try and debug a problem just given a picture, if you can send the actual model files that helps a lot.

The mirror holder part may be a bug in MoI that I can fix up, but the other problem where you are pointing the arrow to is an unfortunate problem built into SketchUp, which is that it will not allow any polygon smaller than 0.001 units in size.

Do you also happen to be using centimeters or millimeters as your unit system? That will also unfortunately increase the chance of running into that "small polygon" SketchUp problem since the 0.001 units is actually always measured in inches. If you use millimeters for your units then that means that any polygon less than 0.0254 millimeters will just be completely ignored by SketchUp, leaving those little holes.

I'm probably going to try to do a kind of "hole sealing" mechanism that will collapse any polygons in that size to try and partially help this issue, but that will tend to alter the shape in those areas a bit, so it will actually be better if you scale your objects up by 10 or 100 times, or use Meters units instead of centimeters or millimeters.

- Michael