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 From:  manz
1818.21 In reply to 1818.1 
Hi Aris,

>>I have look at Steve/Manz 3D Villa and looks very cool.

Thanks,

If you have any specific question (such as, how was a certain part made in MoI), then ask away, or, if you need help with a certain part, them post a pic or drawing so I or others can help show the various ways to build.


- Steve
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 From:  Anis
1818.22 In reply to 1818.21 
Hi Steve...

First, would you like to give me a tips how you create wall of your villa ?

Thanks !!!
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 From:  Anis
1818.23 In reply to 1818.22 
Hi All....

I just got info about this good architecture tutorials : http://en.wiki.mcneel.com/default.aspx/McNeel/GeometriaInformaticaArquitectonica.html. I dont know yet exactly the content of tutorials, I am try to reading it now ( I dont understand spain language ). Just follow the pictures.

Hope this help...
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 From:  manz
1818.24 In reply to 1818.22 
Hi Anis,

>>First, would you like to give me a tips how you create wall of your villa ?

The main walls? Just as being shown on thread, drawing the main shape and then offsetting the lines for the wall thickness. Then boolean out for the windows etc


- Steve
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 From:  Anis
1818.25 In reply to 1818.24 
Hi Steve,

Thanks for your tips on how create the wall and window. I think it will be interesting to have door & window standard collections.

Here are the steps :

1. create window & door in 3dm
2. just import when we need window or door than do boolean

Do you know where I can find window and door collection that can be import to MoI ?

Thanks !
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 From:  manz
1818.26 In reply to 1818.25 
Hi Anis,

>>Do you know where I can find window and door collection that can be import to MoI ?

There are many free models on the internet, unfortunately most are usually in Obj or 3DS format so they cannot be imported directly into MoI. You would need to search about, I just build what I need.


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 From:  Anis
1818.27 In reply to 1818.26 
Hi Steve & All....

One of the solution I think is search for IGES library parts.
One of the great resource is www.3dcontentcentral.com Attached below is a window from those site. The cool thing is very editable inside MoI.
You can register for free ;)

Any body know another website that more specific for architecture library ?

Thanks !!!


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 From:  Rafaello
1818.28 In reply to 1818.27 
Hi, I've been working in the architectural modelling and visualization to teach my students here in México, MoI is great for that purpose, here is the result of a test project where the whole scene was modelled with MoI an rendered with Indigo.
-Rafaello


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 From:  Anis
1818.29 In reply to 1818.28 
Hi Rafaello...

Wow...very nice result.

1. As I know Indigo run under sketch up, so after create whole model in MoI then import to Sketch up, render with indigo inside Sketch up ? Is that correct ?

2. Have you some tutorial for newbe architecture like me ?

Thanks !!!
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 From:  Rafaello
1818.30 In reply to 1818.29 
Hi Anis, I am new in architectural design too and used Revit for the projects, but you have to export to dwg and then erase a lot of stuff in Autocad to import the model in Max, and then I thougth that MoI could be better to do the work and you saw the result.

I used all of the tips in this post to make the model.

- First draw the lines of the walls axes then I use Offset



- Then I hide the axes and extrude the lines to make the walls

- I use booleans to create the windows and door openings

- For the floors just pick the base lines of a room and make a plane with them

- for ceilings it's the same as creating floors or use booleans if they aren't flat

Now:

1. Yes Indigo works with Sketchup, but with blender, 3dsMax and others too, I use 3ds Max and import the models as obj to it, you can do it to Sketchup either.

2. Indigo has amazed me It works almost like Maxwell or Fry without the fancy things, but it's easy to use. I'm not familiar with Materials or rendering in Sketchup, if you are Just pick the Indigo materials and play with them, every Indigo exporter is different, but I promise to play with the Sketchup exporter for a while and see what happens.

- Rafaello

EDITED: 31 Jul 2008 by RAFAELLO

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 From:  Anis
1818.31 In reply to 1818.30 
Hi Rafaello...

Thanks for your tips...
So you have Max with Indigo. Export from MoI as obj. How about export from MoI as 3ds ? have try it ? how's the result ?

Thanks !!!

-Anis
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 From:  Michael Gibson
1818.32 In reply to 1818.31 
Hi Anis - I haven't tested .3ds export specifically to Indigo, but I just wanted to mention that typically OBJ export is a better way to go since OBJ format can contain additional smoothing information called "vertex normals", which are not able to be stored in the .3ds format.

Having the accurate vertex normals tends to make a much higher quality smooth shading on curved surfaces in the final rendering.

Some programs may have difficulty dealing with n-gons in the OBJ file though, so if you have any problems with OBJ try turning the option for "Output: N-gons" to "Output: Quads & Triangles" instead.

Also some programs may handle the vertex normals better if you turn off welding, to do that expand the meshing options dialog by the little arrow in the lower right corner and uncheck "Weld vertices along edges".


In addition to not having vertex normals, .3ds format also has other limits too, like only being able to have a maximum of 65535 points or faces in a single mesh. It's a much older format and I would usually recommend it only as a kind of last resort if there is no other way to get your data over.

- Michael
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 From:  Rafaello
1818.33 In reply to 1818.32 
Hi Anis and Michael, I agree completely with Michael, because in some cases Max doesn't recognise the 3ds object exported from MoI, Don't know why, just be sure to split large faces of the model specially if they are part of curved objects.

If you want I'll try to help with the settings and materials of Indigo using Max.

- Rafaello
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 From:  Anis
1818.34 In reply to 1818.33 
Hi Michael, Rafaello.....

Thanks for your confirmation about the best format from MoI to Max. So export as obj is the best. Thats help me a lot....

-Anis
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 From:  Michael Gibson
1818.35 In reply to 1818.34 
Hi Anis, unfortunately one thing that can complicate things is that the default OBJ importer that Max has is not really very good.

I have heard from some people that this other max OBJ import plug-in from here:
http://www.guruware.at/main/objio/index.html
can work better, so that may be worth a try.

Also make sure to set your export from MoI to be "Quads & Triangles".

- Michael
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