> but I cannot find a way to re-direct/show the options panel.
> Is there a way to do that?

Hi Steve, the key things for this are the <moi:CommandUIContainer> elements in the side pane.

The way that these currently work is that it really expects to only find one of these (of each type, command set and command UI) and the first one of these that is created will be remembered by the internal infrastructure as being the spot to funnel command option into.

It's not really expecting for that UI to come and go, so if you put it on a dialog and then close the dialog, the element on the closed dialog is still being targeted as the place to send the options into, which won't work very well because the dialog is not displayed and basically zombied at that point.


I think it would work if you removed it from where it currently is on the side pane, then I think it could go on a dialog as long as you didn't close that particular dialog after its initial display. Does that seem to work?

It would probably not be too difficult for me to tune this up in v2 to work a bit better and allow that to be closed and opened as a new instance later.

- Michael

I like the darker themed UI (except I would want somewhat lighter for the grid area perhaps). Many drawing programs like Paint Shop Pro have switched to a darker UI - easier on the eyes after a long session.

Ed

Hi Michael,

Sorry, I dont mean to take your time on such.

I dont mind that the options panel will show in the same area/place, but I am unable to make this show when in full screen mode. I would not mind the top flyout staying in same place/position as is, just as long as it will show/hide as it does now.

Any info/help (when you have time) would certainly be appreciated.

Regards,

Steve

Definitely the darker style UI is a lot more "in vogue" these days. There has been kind of a trend towards that for the past several years now.

But personally I don't really like it that much, it just gives me a rather gloomy feel.

But certainly tastes vary and there is no one single color scheme that is perfect for everybody. That's why it is nice to be able to change things around if you like.

- Michael

Hi Steve, re: floating command options.

I've attached an example here - it is a little fussy to set up.

This has just one CommandUIContainer removed from sidepane.htm (the one with id="CommandUIContainer") and then a CommandOptionsFloating.htm dialog that has the command options inside of it.

There are a couple of styles inside a <style> section at the top of SidePane.htm which need to be brought along, these might have been easy to miss when cutting/pasting stuff to another spot.

Also the dialog won't be happy starting out totally blank, I had to add at least one visible line of text inside of it to get its initial size to work right.


This is still not really very good though - like I mentioned before, you have to open it only once and leave it open. Also many commands will expect to be able to talk to the UI inside of the options area, and if you try to run a command like that before you have opened the dialog, it will put up a script error.


Have you seen the other style full screen method? That's one that goes full screen by temporarily hiding the UI instead of trying to float it in dialog boxes. That's available here: http://kyticka.webzdarma.cz/3d/moi/#FullScreen - that method generally fits in better right now.

- Michael

hi all this is my MOI UI tuned up

i added togllelight , shadeview, ghosteview ,fullscreen, inverteselection in viewporte
removed transform tab added the tools to edit
( draw,edit,consturct,tarnsform i use them a lot now they are open all time idont have to switsh tabs)
removed viewtab added image to edit
removed selecttab added invertselect to viewport
moved copy paste to commandbar fo space (dont use it much)
new icon fo plugin( i have got short memory i dont remember shortcuts)

befor install rename command and ui folders in moi directory (if you want to go back to original later)
install: extract to moi folder

Been away for a holiday and just catching up here.

Hi, Barney - glad you found a use for my UI. MoI is great for tweaking!

Hey Ash,

I installed your ui – thanks! – and now, besides feeling Moi's ui to be a bit more accessible and loving the measurement tool, I feel less intimidated and more empowered!

Having fun.

Cheers,

Leonard

Thanks Leonard. Nice to see others enjoying the fruits of my labours :-)

Hey Tony, did you ever make a UI like this that worked with MoI V2?

Hi there,


No sorry. I started during the beta phase, but the change rate was too much to keep up with.

I haven't had time for personal 3D for a while now either, as you will note from my recent lack of posts, too much work and other things :-(

I still pop in here every so often to see what is happening with V3 though :-)

I don't see me getting any time to re-do the i/f for V2 and I'm sure Michael will be starting V3 soon and then we'll all be using the betas again.
Anyway, feel free to adapt and change my stuff for V2 in any way you would like.

Hi Tony, also one of the things I'm trying to set up for V3 is to have the controls to be more based on parameters declared in CSS with stuff like gradients and rounded corners (which works with WebKit's HTML engine) and not as much based only on image backgrounds.

It should make it easier to tweak colors because a lot of them will be controlled by declared rgb values.

- Michael

Thanks for the reply Tony, I understand that! Cheers

I like this UI (in a darker form), but how do I get the Browser to show up. I have tried setting hotkeys, but they don't do anything. This leads me to believe the browser is missing from this UI. How do I add it back?

Thanks for any help,
Nick

Hi Nick, yeah that custom UI pre-dates the browser mechanism so it doesn't include it.

Are you trying to use the browser in the "inside" mode or the "adjacent" mode?

- Michael

I figured it pre-dated by the posts, but there are not many other custom UI's posted. Either, I have a hotkey for switching, but I prefer inside most of the time and inside would be fine for permenant residence.

While I'm at it, is there a way to put the close/minimize/maximize buttons in the default Windows location (upper right)?




Thanks for the reply.

Hi Nick, so for inside mode the scene browser is defined by a tag at the bottom of the other palettes. That custom UI is probably missing that, but if you add it in it should work.

To find what you need to add, go to the default UI file SidePane.htm and go near the bottom, there is a piece of it that looks like this:

<div id="SceneBrowserContainer">
     <some content inside of it>
</div>

That's the piece you want to copy into the same location near the bottom of the customized UI's side pane.


> While I'm at it, is there a way to put the close/minimize/maximize
> buttons in the default Windows location (upper right)?

Yes, they should go there if you change the position of the side pane (under Options > General > Side pane position) to the right-hand side instead of the left-hand side.

They're currently part of the top of the side pane so they move along with it.

It could be possible to further customize that custom UI to put them along the upper bar though, to do that go find the file named SidePaneHeader.htm from the default UI and there are some tags in there labeled <moi:WindowControlButton> which are the definitions of those close buttons, put those in the file for that custom top bar.

Basically, there is not any nice "just check a button" method for doing what you are asking for, but it is possible to do it by some further editing of the UI files.

- Michael

Thanks. I found what the browser section and inserted it into the custom UI, but all I got was a tiny little strip. Do I need to declare the browser object further up? Is there another .htm file I need to edit?

Hi Nick, it kind of looks like the text label for the browser section is what is missing. I guess probably the custom UI also has an old UI strings file in it - that's the file named EnglishStrings.txt inside the \ui folder. If you got an old version of that it would not have the string label for "Scene browser" in it.

To fix it, you could either copy the default MoI v2 EnglishStrings.txt file over top of the old one, which should then make that string defined, or you could go to the part of the scene browser that has this in it:

<moi:TabButton id="SceneBrowserTab" class="SingleTabButton"><moi:Text textid="Scene browser inline header"/></moi:TabButton>

And instead replace that <moi:Text> part with just hard coded text like this:

<moi:TabButton id="SceneBrowserTab" class="SingleTabButton">Scene browser</moi:TabButton>

That thing that says <moi:Text ...> means to look up a string with that id out of the string table, which uses the current language's string table, that's how different languages work. But it won't work if you've got an old string table that doesn't have an entry for that text.

You could also edit your EnglishStrings.txt file and just copy over the line that has the Scene browser inline header id in it to make that string available.

- Michael

Hi Michael...

Is there any progress on the easy toolbar customization of MoI ? As I remember, you have a plan to make MoI User easily add button and re-layout toolbar etc..

Thanks :)