I may be able to tune this up to a certain extent in v2, but trying to snap to only visible endpoints has some difficult parts to it.

Probably some situations will cause points to be left out where you might not want them left out, like a big line overlapping on top of a shorter line. If the bigger line covers up the smaller line, then you wouldn't get a chance to snap to the endpoints of the small line.

There are quite a few places during normal modeling where things overlap for a while, so it could be problematic to have these kinds of missing points in overlaps, that's why it does not attempt to do it currently.

A quick test of a couple of different CAD programs yields the same behavior as MoI, presumably for similar reasons.


I have added this to the wiki wishlist to keep track of.

- Michael

Hi Michael,

>>>When you have a lot of points bunched up like that, it usually helps a lot to zoom in on that area, that will tend to make it a lot easier to pick the point you are trying to reach.

Yes, but it does kill the flow having to zoom in to every point to confirm correct snapping.

>>>Also if there are certain kinds of snaps getting in your way, you can disable some of them by going to the Object Snap button on the bottom toolbar, and using the arrow that appears above it to pop up the menu.

I have also followed that route, but still have to zoom in, or I get similar as shown,



>>>If you've got a bunch of stuff getting in your way, hiding that stuff is generally your best bet.

That is what I have been doing, but I was thinking that after you select an object, then "hide", that on the second press of hide that the selection would reverse, what I would of thought as an easy option to "hide all not selected".

Is there a way to inverse selection? So I can select a few objects, inverse selection, then hide.

>>>A quick test of a couple of different CAD programs yields the same behavior as MoI, presumably for similar reasons.

In other CAD programs, I have better management of objects such as "Layers"

Regards,
Steve

The best way for 3d snapping IMHO is the use of working planes instead of layers.
If I can snap only on selected faces it will be more simple to snap correctly, simulating the use of planes.
Snappin in the 'volume' is quite difficult and may be better to snap using the ortho views and passing from one to another (with LMB on).

Gianrico

Hi Steve,

> That is what I have been doing, but I was thinking that after
> you select an object, then "hide", that on the second press of
> hide that the selection would reverse, what I would of thought
> as an easy option to "hide all not selected".

I can see how that would look like that.

But what actually happens here is after the object is hidden, then nothing is selected.

When nothing is selected and you push the "Hide" button again you trigger the regular show mode, same as if you pushed it at any time when there are no objects selected.


To do a "Hide all not selected" (sometimes called "Isolate selection", etc... ) is a different thing, you can do that by setting up a shortcut key with this script on it:

script:moi.geometryDatabase.invertSelection(); moi.geometryDatabase.hide(true);

> Is there a way to inverse selection? So I can select a few objects,
> inverse selection, then hide.

Yup, there is a button for this Select menu on the right-side pane. If you want to set it up on a keyboard shortcut, use this:

script:moi.geometryDatabase.invertSelection();

But if you want to do this frequently you may want to use the other script above which bundles the invert and the hide all together.

- Michael

Hi Michael,

>>>To do a "Hide all not selected" (sometimes called "Isolate selection", etc... ) is a different thing, you can do that by setting up a shortcut key with this script on it:

Many thanks, that was just what I was looking for.

Regards,
Steve

Hi Michael,

>>>I have added this to the wiki wishlist to keep track of.

After the options you have now shown (via scripts) I actually see no need for this. I would therefore ask you to remove this request (unless other have/do ask) I would prefer you to spend time on what is actually needed.


Regards,
Steve

edit:
PS
Layers would be nice.

Hi Steve, I have already thought about it a little bit, and I think I may have a way to make it work while avoiding the overlapping type problem that I was talking about.

It turns out that the new method that I have planned is not too terribly difficult to achieve, I think I should be able to give it a try in v2 without really disrupting other work.

I'm not 100% sure if it will work out or not but I would like to give it a try and see...

So there is a good chance that this may come along anyway.


Layers / organization type tools are definitely going to be a big focus of V2 though. But that's going to involve a significant new piece of UI and will take a fair amount of time to complete. I will probably chew on it pretty early in the v2 cycle though.

- Michael