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 From:  Rudy
1401.9 In reply to 1401.8 
Hei Guys,
thank you so much.
Nick, Michael, Brian,
I appreciate it very much!

Good night to you all,
Rudy
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 From:  Brian (BWTR)
1401.10 In reply to 1401.9 
Pretty much Michael did what I did except he got "posh" with the Boolean Intersection!
Nice to know I am learning though.
Attached is an idea --in principle! note--for doing a TuTu!--- (I DO HAVE FUN!)

EDITED: 31 Dec 2008 by BWTR

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 From:  Colin
1401.11 In reply to 1401.1 
Hi Rudy,

I took a slightly different approach, so not sure if this idea/version is any good for you?
This was done really quickly, so it would pay to rebuild it & take some time.

I basically created a curved arc shape & used Rail Revolve around a small circle.
This gave me a trumpet curved shape.
Then I created half of the basic flower shape using Freeform.
I switched on points & adjusted them to get a better looking half petal shape.
Mirrored the half petal & Joined it together.

I then did an Array Circular with the petal shape.
Then selected the trumpet shape & the 5 petal shapes, I used Boolean Merge to finish it off.

All the relevant curves are hidden in the 3DM file.

Hope it's of use, Colin



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 From:  Nick (BODINI)
1401.12 
Rudy, you might like something simple like a 2 rail sweep too. ;-)




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 From:  Rudy
1401.13 In reply to 1401.11 
Hello Colin,
Great approach!
Actually, this was my intentions...to array the petals in a circular way.

I am amazed the way you did it....I mean, there are many ways to do something in MOI.

Appreciated to the max.

Thank you Colin,
Rudy
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 From:  Rudy
1401.14 In reply to 1401.12 
Great Nick!

Rudy
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 From:  Michael Gibson
1401.15 In reply to 1401.10 
Hi Brian,

> Attached is an idea --in principle! note--for doing a TuTu!--- (I DO HAVE FUN!)

Looks good! Also it looks like that kind of thing would work for making a different style of flower that has the kind of broader longer type petals in it.

- Michael
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 From:  Michael Gibson
1401.16 
A lot of nice ideas and shapes here!

As you can tell there is usually more than one way to approach stuff.

With Colin's example, the shape comes from a revolved profile, so that has a kind of bending curvature to the surface of the petal rather than it being more of a straight slab.

The boolean intersection method that I showed earlier will produce a straight slab-ish kind of shape since it is the combination of 2 straight extrusions.

Even though your original sketch showed a straight piece, it seems like the revolve method may be a nice fit for your design instead.


The kind of customization that Nick showed is a cool idea as well! It isn't really too hard to get it, sometimes when you have a solid you can kind of erase a piece of it, and then fill it back in with a custom surface generated by sweeping. Here is a step-by-step for getting that just to help others understand:

Starting with that previous solid:



Delete the top face and the little flat piece at the bottom, leaving just the back and side pieces like this:




Next you can draw in a little curve at the bottom:



And mirror it and then join the 2 pieces together:




Now that joined bottom curve can be used as the profile for a sweep along those other edges. Select that double-bump bottom curve, and run Construct / Sweep. Then select the 2 edges as the sweep rails:



That creates a sweep that looks like this:



Now select that sweep and the other back and side surface piece, and use Edit/Join to glue them together into one piece.

Then there is a little hole at the bottom, if this is planar you can fill it in quickly by selecting the object and running Construct / Planar to fill it in. That Construct / Planar command can be used for 2 types of things - it will create a planar surface from outline curves, or it will also fill in planar holes of surfaces to make a closed solid.

If your bottom part is not planar for some reason (this can happen if some pieces were at different angles or something), the easiest way to make it into a solid is to draw a line that divides it from the side view, and then do a Boolean difference using the line as the cutting object, that kind of cut with a line will make a nice planar hole on something.


One thing that is interesting about this method is it shows how you can take a simple solid, and kind of jazz it up by replacing just a piece of it and then re-joining back into a solid again.

- Michael

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 From:  rayman
1401.17 
You can project onto 2 booleand surfaces too !
That gives you yet another form .
In this case from the bumpline of 2 spheres ...
Nothing is impossible in Moi 3d !!!!
Peter


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 From:  Rudy
1401.18 In reply to 1401.16 
Great Michael,
I really wanted to know how to do that one.
I have learned a lot just from the making of this shape (use of isect and other tools)
Yes, I still use some of them, so shown step for me is truly helpful.

Thank you so much,
I obliged to you all,

Rudy
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 From:  Nick (BODINI)
1401.19 
I've had this one on my 'better figure it out' list for a while... a 'curled' leaf with 'undercut' along a non-radial path. The little grey cells must be firing today, because it only took me a few minutes to figure it out. ;-)


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