Tried to install on Dell 530 with Nvidia Quadro 700 XGL and Direct 9c. The 3D windows in MOI won't initialize. Anyone ever seen this before?

Hi Fred - this means that there was some error returned when MoI tried to talk to your video card using DirectX.

Normally this message is displayed with much older cards when they don't support the minimum feature set that MoI requires, but this is for cards that are like 9 years old.

That's not the problem with your card, yours should be able to run MoI fine.

I have heard of a handful of other reports of this where there was a problem with DirectX or the video driver installation.

In one case, installing the newest version of DirectX solved it, and in another installing the newest version of their video driver solved it.

So I would recommend updating both the DirectX system component from here and also the video card driver from here

There is also some debug info that MoI writes out when this happens, if you could copy that and paste it into a message here, that could help me determine the specific thing that is failing. That might give me some additional clues as to what the problem is. To get the debug information, maximize the MoI window, and hold down the Ctrl key and click on the "MoI" label in the upper-right corner of the screen next to the window maximize/close buttons. This will pop up a menu, choose "Show log", and then select all the text in the log window and Ctrl+C to copy it, then Ctrl+V to paste into here.

- Michael

Okay, me bad. After posting this message I checked my other 3D apps and discovered that they were not working either. I checked the configuration of the video card and I had left the hardware acceleration off the last time I was doing a tutorial-style screen capture that included direct-to-screen video. I turned on the hardware acceleration and the program started working.

I played with it a bit, and so far it looks pretty cool. I'm especially interested in how it will export the nurbs models for eventual incorporating and rendering in Lightwave animations. I was able to create a couple of simple shapes that translated pretty well. It will probably take me a while to be able to create a more typical and complicated product model to determine if more complicated models translate as well to the .lwo format. Unless.... Are there any sample models that were created in MOI available for experimentation? This would help me find out pretty quickly if MOI has a place in our pipeline.

Anyway thanks for the speedy reply.

Hi Fred, I'm glad that you were able to solve it!

> Are there any sample models that were created in MOI available for
> experimentation? This would help me find out pretty quickly if MOI
> has a place in our pipeline.

There are various models scattered as attachments in the newsgroup, but I don't have any organized repository currently available.

I'd say give this one a try: http://annur.free.fr/MoI/PolyNightmareTest.zip

The 3dm in there was created by Steph as a torture test for MoI's new mesh export mechanism, that should be a pretty good test.

- Michael

Hi
MoI works correctly in old PC AMD atholon 850 MHz Ram 256 MB Nvidia G-Force 400 64MB

Merry Christmas and happy New Year


Best regard

Juan Galvan

Hi Juan, Merry Christmas!

> PC AMD atholon 850 MHz Ram 256 MB Nvidia G-Force 400 64MB

If you do want to upgrade your machine, the #1 thing that I would recommend would be to add more system RAM.

That's usually the single biggest thing to speed stuff up, because once all your regular 256 MB is filled (which can happen fairly easily once you start building more complex objects and running more than one program at at time) Windows will start swapping chunks of memory back and forth to your hard disk which is so so much slower than having everything fit in RAM.

An older machine can work pretty well, but it does help a lot to have the maximum amount of RAM that will fit on it.

- Michael

Merry Christmas Michael:

With a new PC better MOI will run it is to demonstrate that MOI adapts to almost any system with modest video card.

A question:
what would it happen if the HD was damaged and do I lose all the information?
can I install MOI in another PC? comercial version.


Best regards

Juan Galvan

> With a new PC better MOI will run it is to demonstrate that MOI adapts
> to almost any system with modest video card.

Yup, that's true! I just wanted to mention the system RAM because adding more system RAM is a pretty easy way to make an older machine run more smoothly (for a lot of things, not just MoI) with only spending a small amount of money.

When you have less than 512Mb of system RAM, it can tend to get all occupied pretty quickly.


> what would it happen if the HD was damaged and do I lose all the information?

Well I hope that you are making backups of your important documents and models so you don't permanently lose anything that you have worked on!


> can I install MOI in another PC? comercial version.

Yes you will be able to do this - the commercial MoI will not be locked down to only be installed on a single machine.

That is becoming a lot more common these days, but I think it can too easily cause problems.

- Michael