thanks for the help ....the vcarve software looks interesting I'm going to try the free download

hi smitty igot a couple of pics off of v carve is this what u want to do

that's it.. but I'll have to figure out vcarve first ...it looks like it's mostly for wood or large objects I do jewelry work so my pieces would be around 35-40 mm.. think it'll work for that.. I also see it's using their cuttin tools mine are smaller so would I have to import the design to my cutting software then use my tools to mill it out

hi smitty you can enter your on size tools feeds and speds in there software wnen you set up the file to cut ucan select a cutter or add any size and shape cutter u want ther help page has all the info