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 From:  Finema
10033.1 
Hi Michael
MoI V4 is OK for Big Sur or not ?
Thanks
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 From:  Michael Gibson
10033.2 In reply to 10033.1 
Hi Finema, I don't know yet. I haven't heard from anyone running it and my Mac hardware is too old to run it so I can't test it over here yet.

- Michael
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 From:  Finema
10033.3 In reply to 10033.2 
Ok Michael
i stay on Catalina
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 From:  Finema
10033.4 
If anyone has been able to test?
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
10033.5 
Does it not harassing for a coder to have an Operating System who changes every time ?
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Is beautiful that please without concept!
My Moi French Site My Gallery My MagicaVoxel Gallery
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 From:  raytownmike (HOPPER)
10033.6 In reply to 10033.4 
I was considering upgrading to Big Sur but when I researched Adobe Creative Suite some of those apps may work while others may not. In some cases many have know issues. I plan to wait for a while to upgrade Big Sur.
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 From:  Finema
10033.7 In reply to 10033.6 
me too :)
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 From:  mxm (MECHANICALLYEXTENDEDMAN)
10033.9 
Hi, I just installed it the latest MOI3D beta on a

macOS Big Sur
MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Late 2013)
2 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7
16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3
Intel Iris Pro 1536 MB

If there is anything specific you need to test let me know.

mxm
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 From:  Finema
10033.10 In reply to 10033.9 
thanks mxm
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 From:  jtucker
10033.11 
V4 beta is working for me in Big Sur, however I cannot get V3.2 to launch. Is that expected behavior?
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 From:  Finema
10033.12 In reply to 10033.11 
thanks jtucker for your feedback :)
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 From:  Finema
10033.13 In reply to 10033.12 
V3.2 is not 64 bit
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 From:  jtucker
10033.14 
Mac system report thinks V3.2 is 64 bit...V3.2 is crashing in Mojave as well, but it does try to start. Neither V3.2 or V4 beta will start on my Mojave VM in Parallels.
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 From:  Finema
10033.15 In reply to 10033.14 
Michael
I've install Big Sur and MoI run perfectly for now...
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 From:  Michael Gibson
10033.16 In reply to 10033.11 
Hi jtucker,

re:
> V4 beta is working for me in Big Sur, however I cannot get V3.2 to
> launch. Is that expected behavior?

Yes, that's expected. Just like Catalina OS, MoI v3.2 will not be able to run on Big Sur because Apple removed support for 32-bit programs there.

That's great to hear that V4 is working ok though. I expect that V4 should be more resilient to new Mac OS releases than V3 was.

- Michael
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 From:  Michael Gibson
10033.17 In reply to 10033.14 
Hi jtucker,

re:
> Mac system report thinks V3.2 is 64 bit...

For v3 it's only the outermost "Wineskin" wrapper that is 64-bit, that's why it's giving you that mistaken report. But the inner workings of v3 using Wine is 32-bit.


> V3.2 is crashing in Mojave as well, but it does try to start.

It should be working on Mojave, is there a particular error message being reported?


> Neither V3.2 or V4 beta will start on my Mojave VM in Parallels.

Any particular error message or crash reports?

- Michael
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 From:  jtucker
10033.18 
Michael,

Enclosed are the crash reports:

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 From:  Michael Gibson
10033.19 In reply to 10033.18 
Hi jtucker, thanks for posting the crash report files.

For MoI_2020-11-17-073509_Johns-Mac.crash, the crash is happening because the viewport display mechanism using OpenGL is failing to initialize. In the v4 final release instead of crashing this should now put up a dialog saying that the graphics card setup could not be initialized. But MoI will not be usable in this environment. This is when you're running the Mac OS inside a VM?

For moi_report7.zip - that seems to be an error in the Wine emulation system that the MoI v3 Mac version uses. Is this also when running Mac OS inside a VM or normally?

- Michael
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 From:  jtucker
10033.20 
Michael,

Both are running in a Parallels VM of Mojave. I made this as a back up plan to run legacy 32 bit apps. It seems some other apps that are graphics intensive are having issues as well.
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