I miss 123d Design (the Fillet master)
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 From:  Psygorn (DRILLBIT)
9952.29 In reply to 9952.28 
> Uninstall fusion 360 must be done (in windows) like usual other progs!
Config Panel / Uninstall Progs

Yes it should be like what you mentioned above, except the fact that it doesn't work! Windows was not able to uninstall it ;)

So, I did a research and found this:

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/fusion-360/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/How-to-do-a-clean-uninstall-of-Autodesk-Fusion-360.html

According to above website :

1-Go to the Start Menu > Control Panel > Uninstall Programs.
2-Select the existing Autodesk Fusion 360 entry from the list and click Uninstall.
-> *Sometimes this step will not work depending on what happened to the installation files. If that is the case move onto the manual deletion steps below)*

In my case this didn't work! So, I went to this link:

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/fusion-360/troubleshooting/caas/sfdcarticles/sfdcarticles/How-to-do-an-automatic-Clean-Uninstall-for-Autodesk-Fusion-360.html

and downloaded "Fusion_360_Cleaner.zip for Windows" and then executed it! It seems it was able to remove Fusion 360. But my problem is that when I go to Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Programs and Features I still see Fusion 360 ( however the icon is not there but it says it has occupied 2.54 GB on my drive!

Edit: I just need a companion program for MOI to do the fillet job! While I am waiting for MOI to improve its filleting abilities :)
So, I am looking for a preferably lightweight and free/open source program. if you have worked with Onshape & 123D Design before which one you suggest?
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
9952.30 In reply to 9952.29 
123 Design will be perfect because it's very easy!
Design Spark Mechanical 5.0 (free) is less easy and export / import with Moi is a little tricky!
OnShape is middle easy and only Online...
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Pilou
Is beautiful that please without concept!
My Moi French Site My Gallery My MagicaVoxel Gallery
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 From:  Ken (OKURO)
9952.31 In reply to 9952.25 
YES: it is the official site !
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
9952.32 In reply to 9952.31 
This one yes but... no link to 123D progs! ;)
https://www.autodesk.com/solutions/123d-apps
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 From:  mdesign
9952.33 
Which version of 123d design is that? I think it`s the first iteration because later layers were turned off. I can`t find that old version with layers. Do you think that the older version is better than the newer one? I think it won`t try to connect with Autodesk and those layers are useful.

Do you have any opinions about that version from that screenshot?



Cheers!!!

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 From:  Psygorn (DRILLBIT)
9952.34 In reply to 9952.33 
How about the fillet power?
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
9952.35 In reply to 9952.33 
Why not click n the button "?" on the Top right screen ? ;)
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 From:  mdesign
9952.36 In reply to 9952.35 
This was answer to my question?

Because I don`t have this software only print screen from net :) it`s hard to click anything on the image ;)
I can`t find this particular version. I`ve found others but not this one.
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
9952.37 In reply to 9952.36 
From this "French Site" it's more a beta 123D (6.1) for Fusion 360...
Scroll/Click the Horizontal images : your is N°7 / 9
I believe that you can download it! Will be in English! ;)
Only for Windows! (not tested because i have yet 123DDesign 2.2.14 and Fusion ;)
https://autodesk-123d.fr.softonic.com

EDITED: 11 May 2021 by PILOU

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 From:  Psygorn (DRILLBIT)
9952.38 
Hello to all,

Does anyone have any idea why moi cannot perform fillets on my hexagonal objects while it can perform fillets on pentagonal ones?

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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
9952.39 In reply to 9952.38 
Maybe because is like to try to fillet a sphere ?
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 From:  ed (EDDYF)
9952.40 In reply to 9952.39 
DRILLBIT -

If I select the solid(s) then I can fillet up to around 0.5. If I select just the outer face I can't get a fillet. Sometimes fillet needs multiple faces to be selected. I suspect it has to do with the smaller angle.

Michael would need to give the technical explanation - I just know what works :)

Ed Ferguson
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 From:  Psygorn (DRILLBIT)
9952.41 In reply to 9952.39 
Hi PILOU,

No! I don't think its the case then why MOI is able to perform fillets on pentagonal objects?
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 From:  Psygorn (DRILLBIT)
9952.42 In reply to 9952.40 
Hi ed!

That works! haha

What a simple and useful trick! thanks :)

Yes, I'd be happy to know the technical explanation (@Michael)
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 From:  Michael Gibson
9952.43 In reply to 9952.38 
Hi Psygorn,

re:
> Does anyone have any idea why moi cannot perform fillets on my hexagonal objects
> while it can perform fillets on pentagonal ones?

I tested selecting this hexagonal piece:


And then I put a fillet of radius 0.2 on it which seemed to be fine:


I'll need some more details about what is not working over there for you.

- Michael

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 From:  Michael Gibson
9952.44 In reply to 9952.40 
Hi Ed,

re:
> Sometimes fillet needs multiple faces to be selected. I suspect it has to do with the smaller angle.

When you target only some edges coming out from a shared vertex location instead of all edges it's a much more difficult calculation for the filleter to do because it has to extend and intersect fillet surfaces against each other rather than being able to have the fillets come to a corner junction patch which doesn't need intersections.

- Michael
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 From:  Psygorn (DRILLBIT)
9952.45 In reply to 9952.43 
Hi Michael,

if you select other hexagonal pieces and try to perform fillet on them (let's say 0.2) you may not get a fillet!

Important: I don't want the inner edges to have fillets (simply because they are not visible) So please select a face (just outer Hexagonal face) and try to fillet it I believe fillet won't work!

And one more thing when you select all hexagonal shapes and fillet them then you cannot Boolean Union them. but if you don't fillet them Boolean Union works.
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 From:  Psygorn (DRILLBIT)
9952.46 In reply to 9952.44 
Hi Michael,

Even when I select edges that are not coming from a shared vertex I don't get a fillet for this particular example! I have a solution to my problem but I am just curious as to why fillet doesn't work for hexagonal pieces here! but it works for pentagonal ones!
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 From:  Michael Gibson
9952.47 In reply to 9952.45 
Hi Psygorn,

re:
> if you select other hexagonal pieces and try to perform fillet on them (let's say 0.2) you may not get a fillet!

Over here if I select all hexagonal pieces they all can be filleted with a radius of 0.2:






> Important: I don't want the inner edges to have fillets (simply because they are not visible) So please select
> a face (just outer Hexagonal face) and try to fillet it I believe fillet won't work!

I would recommend not to do it this way because it makes it more difficult for the filleter and doesn't work.


> And one more thing when you select all hexagonal shapes and fillet them then you cannot Boolean Union
> them. but if you don't fillet them Boolean Union works.

It can be difficult for booleans to handle pieces that barely graze each other with overlapping surface areas. If the pieces connect up to each other accurately enough then I'd recommend trying to delete faces that are overlapping and use Edit > Join to glue them together rather than boolean union which tries to intersect pieces.

- Michael

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 From:  Michael Gibson
9952.48 In reply to 9952.46 
Hi Psygorn,

re:
> Even when I select edges that are not coming from a shared vertex I don't get a fillet for this particular example!

I'm not able to repeat that over here, see my examples above where all edges are being targeted, fillet is working ok then.

Can you show me a case with your objects where it's not working when all the edges coming off of a single vertex location are being filleted instead of only some of them?


> I have a solution to my problem but I am just curious as to why fillet doesn't work for hexagonal
> pieces here! but it works for pentagonal ones!

Well like I mentioned above when only some of the edges at a juncture area are being filleted it's a much more difficult case for the filleter to handle because it needs to do more work to extend and intersect fillet surfaces against each other. Those are pretty difficult calculations. As to exactly why it works for the fillet surfaces on your pentagonal cases and not your hexagonal ones, that's probably some sort of bug in the fillet intersector. It would probably take me something like 20 to 30 hours of investigatory work to try and answer it any better than that.

- Michael
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