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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
9949.26 In reply to 9949.25 
Fully understandable : it's for that i preconise for each New node to send all the nodeeditor package :)
No very ecologic but avoid a lot of headaches!
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 From:  Barry-H
9949.27 
Hi,
attached a version that as a limit on the thread length thus stopping it accidently running into the head.
I have set the limit at 1.5 x pitch of thread from the head.
So any input that is to big will automatically be corrected.

Wayne,
>>P.S: I am not going to say anything about threads missing in the nuts, because that has already been addressed. But... If I were to 3D print some nuts using this script, it would be another step, before the 3D build. Just thinking ahead....

If you wanted to 3D print a Screw & nut a thread cutter node for the nut could be done with an adjustable clearance by offsetting the thread profile.
I will have a look at adding that option.

Cheers
Barry

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 From:  wayne hill (WAYNEHILL5202)
9949.28 In reply to 9949.27 
Hi Barry,

Thank you! This sample 3D printed screw and nut has been sitting on my desk for many years as an inspiration for this type of project sometime or another.
I was having trouble with the nut thread as detailed here:

http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=9685.8

Pilou has a solution by rotating the nut to allow the curve intersection to offset.

Thank you,

Wayne


EDITED: 17 Jan 2021 by WAYNEHILL5202

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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
9949.29 In reply to 9949.28 
Funny material! :)
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 From:  Barry-H
9949.30 In reply to 9949.28 
Hi Wayne,
the picture shows a M16 x 2pitch example with a 0.1mm clearance which I created manually using an offset of the form.
Not sure if its this method is best option yet.
Also with the thread form being 60 degrees printing without supports may be an issue.
Anyway i will see if the manual method I used can be transferred to a node.
Cheers
Barry



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 From:  BurrMan
9949.31 In reply to 9949.30 
Hi Barry,
What you are refering to is what the machining industry calls the "H Limit" or the "L Limit"....

You'll find it as a number system for taps and dies like, H1-H7 or L1-L7 etc......

They reference a tolerance value... So aerospace needs high tolerances. Home depot stuff wiggles around on each other before it's tightend...

It's basically/simply achieved by the depth of the thread cutting tool..

so to make workable nuts and bolts, you will need a "3rd object generated" which will be the tap or the die, to boolean the threads, to work with the current "M12 Bolt" etc....

I dont know enough to be able to just give you the numbers... A Machinsts Handbook can, or asking in a CNC forum also...
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 From:  BurrMan
9949.32 In reply to 9949.31 
An image to be explanatory...

If the red form was the thread, the upper and lower forms would be various H and L Limits...

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 From:  Barry-H
9949.33 In reply to 9949.32 
Hi Burr,
thanks I was thinking of offsetting the form to give a constant clearance for 3D printing.
Your method will make it easier the only thing is that to give say 0.05 clearance due to the 60 degree thread form
the former moves 0.1mm but that's no problem.
Many thanks
Barry



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 From:  BurrMan
9949.34 In reply to 9949.33 
Hi Barry,
Sure thing...

Just clarifying because we have such diversity in language in the forum....

The term of offsetting the thread form.... if we use "moi's offset command" you would get erroneous results.... but the term offset, as in "move the cutting form in and out of the cut, is how a guy actually making a nut and bolt would do it...

I am pretty sure you got that part.... just adding it in for the forum....

Always like watching your work go by.....
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 From:  bemfarmer
9949.35 
There is an xml file with metric thread settings for 3d printing which someone prepared in excel. (re: Fusion 360)
Notepad++ shows the text entries. There are external Class 6g, and internal Class 6H, (whatever those are).

There is also a link to Garden Hose Thread xml file contents.

- Brian
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 From:  Barry-H
9949.36 In reply to 9949.28 
hi Wayne,
the attached nod file will allow you to create a screw and nut for 3D printing.
You can adjust the clearance to suit.
There are 2 thread form options 60 degree inclusive and 90 degrees.
The nut is just a cylinder but you can Isect boolean any shape you want from it.
Anyway have a play.

Barry






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 From:  wayne hill (WAYNEHILL5202)
9949.37 In reply to 9949.36 
Hi Barry,

Thank you! I am going to 3d print one tomorrow morning!

Wayne
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 From:  wayne hill (WAYNEHILL5202)
9949.38 In reply to 9949.36 
Hi Barry,

The screw and nut were printed together at the largest tolerance. It worked spectacular with the nut freely going up and down the screw.

The first attempt was at a lower tolerance and the nut seized to the screw. Will be looking for a good midpoint. Your program works great!

Thank you,

Wayne



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 From:  BurrMan
9949.39 In reply to 9949.38 
Hi wayne,
Your printer will have some spacing settings like a step size, pass depth etc... these will affect your tolerance ability there... so the tolerance wont be a direct correlation to a printers "tolerance"...

A step size on an angled surface, to achieve a tolerance on something that has to "slide together" will be exaggerated.....

Just a note....
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 From:  Barry-H
9949.40 In reply to 9949.38 
Hi Wayne,
I printed a 12mm dia screw x 50mm and 3 nuts x 20mm long with a 2mm pitch 90 degree form separately.
The clearances 0.15/0.2/0.25mm.
The 0.25 nut no problem.
0.2 nut required working along the screw a couple of times but fine.
The 0.15 would only go onto the screw about 12mm with a lot of working back and forth.
I think the 0.15 clearance would have worked with a shorter nut maybe its down to shrinkage.
Anyway glad it works.
Cheers
Barry






EDITED: 10 Mar 2023 by BARRY-H

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 From:  stefano (LIGHTWAVE)
9949.41 In reply to 9949.40 
Great work Barry and Wayne,
Interested to know if the node editor you designed can create a part that is like a hollow sleeve; with thread on inside
and outside?
-Stefano

EDITED: 19 Sep 2020 by LIGHTWAVE

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 From:  Barry-H
9949.42 In reply to 9949.41 
Hi Stefano,
yes you can disconnect the cylinder and produce the screw for the outer size add a head boolean union, select it and use that instead of the cylinder in the boolean operation of the inner thread.
Then enter the details for the inner thread with desired clearance and rerun the nod.
Hope that's clear.
Barry



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 From:  stefano (LIGHTWAVE)
9949.43 In reply to 9949.42 
Brilliant cheers Barry, will get to this soon and give it a try - looks great! - stefano
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