Hi Reggy, you're welcome I'm glad that was it.

Thanks,
- Michael

Hi Michael,

thank you for deep explanation, as usual.

It isn't so important readibility AI format v8 by Affinity, but it is more important that MOI generate older AI format, because most of laser cut machines use just old AI format insted of new one.

Affinity reads PDF files generated by MOI without problem.

Thanks.
Mik

"> Just so I am clear, this "Gaurd Rail" function is "NEW", Correct?

Correct."

That is a typo, right?

Hi Pauland, see here:

http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=9942.13

I think its spelt "Guard"!


- Stefano

Yes, that's why I asked the question - I haven't tried V4 yet so I wondered if there was some mis-spelling in the program.

Hi pauland, no that text is not in the program itself, that's just text in a discussion here on the forum.

- Michael

Hi Michael,

The new release is looking really good, I'm loving the new dimension tools.

Apologies if this has been covered already.

Is it possible to have the new dimension objects editable by double clicking (or even shift+click or ctrl+click) them in the viewing window. Currently the only way (that I can see) to access the edit dialog box is to select the object and then click the details button over on the right toolbar.

Thanks, Dan.

Hi Dan, right now I'm not sure what I'll be doing with double click, I want to keep it available until some other pieces like groups are set up.

You can set up a keyboard shortcut to open up the Details... dialog though. To do that set this on a shortcut key:

script: /* Show object properties dialog */ moi.ui.createDialog( 'ObjectPropertiesDialog.htm', 'resizeable,defaultWidth:700,defaultHeight:500' );

- Michael

I would urge anyone using dimensions tools to work with that shortcut and presets as well.
Presets are really flexible. You can set up simple generic ones e.g. text 6pt,8pt,10pt
By type e.g. arrow 1,2,3, by main display feature e.g. horizontal/vertical boxed text, leader dot, leader arrow.
It is almost too flexible!

I also use a shortcut on "O" to open options dialogue box. At moment there
is no link between details and presets page so I find creating presets on the fly is best done with
an options dialogue box shortcut. My post #9950 is work in progress and will cover some of this.


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Hi Dan I use this one;
O = Options
moi.ui.createDialog( 'moi://ui/options.htm','resizeable,default');

(this might not be textbook, i have shortened this on purpose,new to MOI & scripts and just wanted
to see what works in shortest form possible)

I also use:
H= DimHorizontal FromObject
V= DimVertical FromObject

I'm hoping for a one click segment dimension tool in future, thats mentioned/shown here:
http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=9950.4

Shortcuts for managing 'presets' fast, here:
http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=9950.13

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Thanks Michael,

That works for me, cheers.

< Not bad! That will be from the new parallelized loader in v4, it's able to chew on processing objects using multiple CPU cores> quote from Michael


387 MB .3dm ... 4.43 sec ! Thanks for the hard work !

Sorry to ruin your coffee break! ;)

Do I dare ask how long it takes in v3?

- Michael

23,43 sec on V3

That's not really too bad in V3, not long enough for a coffee break... But it is pretty convenient to have it so much faster.

The other thing that is nice is that it doesn't lock up the main thread while it is loading anymore so you don't get a frozen screen while it is busy crunching on the file.

- Michael

Hi Michael, is there a file size limit with .3dm ? I tried to stress test MoI here, copying the model 20 times. It gives a 2.39GB .3dm file, however when reloading the file I only have 5 copies ... and an half model.
(NTFS file system, so I don't thing it's an disk format limitation).

V4.0 Loading time was about 40sec ... Memory usage is bellow 18Gb (/64). Moi 3.0 just crash after a while.

It's a very dumb usage scenario ...

Hi PaQ,

re:
> Hi Michael, is there a file size limit with .3dm ?

Not that I'm aware of. But maybe there's some 32-bit limits in it for some data arrays. Can you send me a link to the big file so I can take a look?

Thanks,
- Michael

Hi PaQ, so yes there is a 32-bit limit that you ran into there. The limit is that any one "chunk" of the .3dm file can't be greater than 2GB in size for v4 and earlier 3DM versions and currently MoI writes a Rhino v4 .3dm file by default when creating a brand new file.

Rhino v5 .3dm files instead have 64-bit chunk sizes so they don't have the 2GB limit.

I could set MoI to generate Rhino v5 .3dm files by default instead of Rhino v4 .3dm files, but it's not that great of a thing to be messing with right at the very end of a beta cycle. For now I'll set up a moi.ini flag that will let you set it to write Rhino v5 .3dm format and in the next MoI beta if you set that then you should be able to generate massive files ok.

- Michael

Hi PaQ, so one odd thing is that if you have any annotation text objects in your model (Dim > Text), it will write out a Rhino v5 .3dm file to make some text properties go into Rhino ok. So one side effect is that should also make your mega version save work ok as well in the current MoI beta.

So if you want to give that a try, go to Dim > Text and place an annotation text object anywhere after you have done the 20 copies, then you should be able to save it ok. I guess you'll have a 9GB or so file size, does that actually work?

- Michael

Hi Michael, thanks a lot for taking the time to look at the file. The only goal with this stupid 20 copies was to get a real cofee break when testing the loading time. I will give the dimension trick a try, and tell you how it goes :)

So I added a text + horiz line dimension after the 20 copy (it requires a bit a patience :P)), but saved file is still 2.42Gb, "only" 5 models are saved, and the dim annotations are gone when reloading the file (makes sense as it's probably the "last" object in the list).