Viewport causing an app hang
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 From:  LocusDio
9688.12 
I figured I'd update you guys on my situation.

I've tried all the methods and avenues that have been mentioned here, even rolling back to a driver released in November when I know I didn't have issues operating MoI, and unfortunately my problem still persists.

Like I mentioned in my original post, this problem is only happening in MoI, all the other software I use have no issues with my graphics card what-so-ever.

I don't know if this merits an even further investigation, but I'm struggling to operate MoI because of this problem. Hopefully it will get resolved but it's starting to look like I'm going to have to explore other software avenues if this keeps up any longer.

I really don't want to give up on MoI, I absolutely love this software, but it's been rendered absolutely unusable because of this issue.

Thanks again for your guys' help and suggestions.
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 From:  Michael Gibson
9688.13 In reply to 9688.12 
Hi LocusDio, thanks for the update and sorry MoI isn't working for you properly.

Unfortunately right now it's doubtful that I'll be able to find a solution, maybe if someone else reports the same issue it will help to identify a pattern and find the root cause. So far though you are the only person to have seen this problem.

Sorry for the difficulty,
- Michael
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 From:  Michael Gibson
9688.14 In reply to 9688.12 
Actually one more idea just occurred to me, did you possibly install any kind of anti-virus or anti-malware packages during this recent time period when the trouble started?

- Michael
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 From:  LocusDio
9688.15 In reply to 9688.14 
No worries Michael, I completely understand your situation. I just wish I was better versed in reconciling these kinds of issues.

As far as the anti-virus situation goes, I haven't installed any new anti-virus/malware packages at all.

Thinking about going as far as a reinstall of windows on my end, but that's probably unnecessary.

I'll try to keep you posted on things I've tried as I come up with more ideas. Thanks again for all your help.
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 From:  nameless
9688.17 In reply to 9688.15 
Hey LocusDio,

Just throwing a long shot, does your motherboard have any onboard graphics options and do you see anything like that in device manager in display adapters? I just thought it could be worth checking out, there is an option via the nvidia panel to choose a gpu for each application and if there were other gfx devices in your system MoI could be using a weird one.

Also, it could be worth checking out if uninstalling gpu drivers completely and letting windows run on the default display adapter driver for your card solves the issue. Or even booting into safe mode and see if MoI crashes or not.

Again, just things that popped into my head and I would try in your shoes, I do not mean to make you pointlessly jump through hoops to make MoI work.

Good luck! :|
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 From:  LocusDio
9688.18 In reply to 9688.17 
Ah thanks for the suggestions, Nameless!

Unfortunately, I had the foresight to test exactly that in between uninstalling my drivers via the method you described a few days ago. It unfortunately was still freezing in Safe mode, without nvidia's graphics drivers installed.

I do believe that effectively rules out it being a display driver issue. I'll give it a 2nd test, though. I guess it couldn't hurt.

I don't have an onboard graphic's chip, either; my Motherboard is an Asus Rog Zenith Extreme Alpha X399. Onboard graphics were one of the bells and or whistles it didn't come equipped with.
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 From:  BurrMan
9688.19 In reply to 9688.18 
Hi locus,
Does your issue happen on just a default "empty" file, or are you dealing with a specific file?

If it is file specific, tune the view angle to something like 40, then test.

Sorry, that's all i have...
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 From:  BurrMan
9688.20 In reply to 9688.19 
Side note:

Nice build! Putting together something for my son right now. I went intel. Just waiting for the processor to become available and i'll get it completed.
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 From:  LocusDio
9688.21 In reply to 9688.20 
Thanks for the advice, BurrMan. Appreciate it.

It happens in an empty file, and whenever I load a file up as well.

I'm not sure I'd want to change the perspective, it would just negatively impact my design work in all honesty. Though it's worth a test to see if it makes any difference in the viewport problem.

Appreciate the compliments about the rig as well. Good luck with your son's! hopefully it all turns out well!
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 From:  BurrMan
9688.22 In reply to 9688.21 
Hey Locus,
Just so you know, the "View Angle" I was referring to, I meant the "Mesh Angle", which is under the view options. This regards the viewport and how finely the system dices up the surfaces you see. (With a larger model, this can start to bog down the system)

Anyway, since it happens for you on an empty file, this is of no help for you....
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 From:  BurrMan
9688.23 In reply to 9688.21 
Last note:

""""""""""""This didn't start becoming an issue until I updated both Windows and my Graphics driver in the middle of January."""""""""""""

Maybe try moving to the February update. I'm on "18362.657"

When I get my sons system built, i'll be on a 2080 ti, so may be able to play more then....
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