Hi Michael,

I am not familiar orienting the frame. Something for me to research today. What lead me to ask was while working with partial arcs in quadrants not starting at zero angle.

Thank you,

Wayne

Hi Wayne, the frame is the plane that the arc is in. The plane has an xaxis and yaxis like this:




The arc starts on the frame's xaxis at an angle of 0, and travels counter-clockwise and ends at the end angle:



- Michael

Thank you for the information.
Wayne

@michael

lol, i couldn't help but notice, you used your new annotation features to provide support. i'm betting your glad you added them now. no need to go to other programs, like in the past. i seem to remember some old posts of yours where you had to go to rhino to show similar things. anyways, i'm still looking forward to the official v4 release.

anthony

Hi anthony, yup they are definitely useful! I am glad to have them although it has taken a whole lot more work than I had thought it would. I'm still working on the last piece of them right now.

I did a survey of various 2D CAD programs a bit ago and I was surprised at how annoying they all were. I didn't find one that I really liked. Maybe they've just been around too long and accumulated too much bloat. I'm sure they work fine if you stick with them.

- Michael

hi michael,

i haven't used just a 2d cad package since the 90s. but as far as low cost 3d cad, there isn't much out there that is any good imo. MoI is surely the best. I know you have recommended ViaCad a lot. To me, that interface is awful. I have tried Turbocad a long time ago. I used to have Alibre, from way back in the day. I guess Alibre is back as an independent company again. I would say for low cost cad probably Alibre is the only thing I would personally try again. However, with you adding dimensions to MoI that won't be necessary. So I'm grateful for that. The only reason I would get Alibre is if I needed parametric CAD. But being retired, I don't need that. For others, the combination of the two (MoI and Alibre) could be useful though.

Since all the CAD and CAE consolidation, it's a dismal time for engineering software. I wish people would stop giving in and leasing software. The fact that people go for it, just makes the companies keep doing it. Seems like in the future you will have to lease software. Also can't stand cloud stuff. But people seem to go for it. I like owning software and running it locally. Why you would spend tons of time creating stuff and not being able to access it unless you keep paying the company is beyond me. Also trusting that your ip is safe on the cloud is crazy. Customers are making terrible choices that only embolden the companies. Pretty soon people will start leasing virtual turds that they can watch flush on cloud toilets for $1000 a month.

ok, old man rant over. back to your important things to do.

Hi Anthony, my conclusion on software "trends" and cloud direction seem pretty in line with yours
and I'm not that old. I looked at a lot of 3d cad options and then decided on moi.
I like the 'ethos' and value.

Software companies typically trying to release more and more features to justify subscriptions
when really it might have worked fine 10years ago. Dont get me wrong some improvements are
worth paying for but I prefer to decide when. I would for example never swap quickbooks online
for quickbooks desktop. So, Intuit left me behind or alienated a lot of customers there offering less
for more. ADOBE might be same.

Whilst I'm a fresh boy with Moi to me it seems Michael's programme infrastructure is really smart
and flexible. It makes moi a really attractive option for people moving from 2d to 3d
or trying to compliment what they might already do.

I understand v4 is near to completion and hoping for a few more 2d like features to be introduced mainly to do with alignment and positioning. This is the 20% I might use and depend on when doing 2d production designs.
Fast dimensioning and positioning is what I need. The more advanced 3d stuff I'll have to ease into.

Maybe Michael could soon be looking at max exodus of 2d designers seeing another dimension ;0).

Keep ranting, it's safe!

Have a nice weekend everyone.

Stefano

Hi Michael, hope youre doing well. Looking forward to V4 release. Can you tell right now, when there will be a the stable release?
thanks

Hi tinytree,

re:
> Hi Michael, hope youre doing well. Looking forward to V4 release. Can you tell right now, when
> there will be a the stable release?

I don't have an exact date yet, but the final v4 beta is only a few days away. Then I will need to update the documentation and the final release will be after that part is finished.

- Michael