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 From:  Michael Gibson
9660.157 In reply to 9660.156 
Hi pafurijaz, you can also set it on a shortcut key if that is more convenient.

- Michael
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 From:  pafurijaz
9660.158 In reply to 9660.157 
Yeah I will do :)
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 From:  moritzbock (MORITZ)
9660.159 In reply to 9660.157 
Hello, Michael,
would it be possible to add a column in the options/keyboard shortcuts for the description of the shortcuts for information purposes?
-moritz


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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
9660.160 In reply to 9660.159 
Normally you have a speed description in the Script itself
script: /* Show objects, or isolate */ var objs = moi.geometryDatabase.getObjects(); var any_hidden = false; for ( var i = 0; i < objs.length && !any_hidden; ++i ) { any_hidden = objs.item(i).hidden; } if ( any_hidden ) { objs.setProperty( 'hidden', false ); } else { for ( var i = 0; i < objs.length; ++i ) { var obj = objs.item(i); if ( !obj.selected ) obj.hidden = true; } }

If it's a direct function you can write
rebuild /*for rebuild a curve*/
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 From:  Michael Gibson
9660.161 In reply to 9660.159 
Hi moritz,

re:
> Hello, Michael,
> would it be possible to add a column in the options/keyboard shortcuts for the description of the shortcuts for information purposes?

The ones that are just command names are pretty self descriptive, like "Delete", "New", "Open", "Save", etc... Do you really need more information on those ones?

For the ones that have script code, you can put in a description as a /* comment */ like you have on these:


What I would like to do eventually is to have just the shortcut key and a description there and not anything else, that needs another mechanism like a "script library" set up first though where there can be some kind of list of scripts in different categories with descriptions along with them.

- Michael

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 From:  moritzbock (MORITZ)
9660.162 In reply to 9660.161 
... For the ones that have script code, you can put in a description as a /* comment */ like you have on these ...

Hi French Pilou, hi Michael, I was not aware of this possibility - thank you very much
-moritz
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
9660.163 In reply to 9660.162 
PS you can call a function by of course a ShortCut but also
by Press TAB then write Rebuild or REbuild REBUILD or RebuilD or rebuild etc...but without espace :)
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 From:  Rich (-RB-)
9660.164 
Hi Michael,

May have already been mentioned (apologies if so the thread is quite lengthy now) but I'm getting aliasing issues when I add a dimension...(Windows 10, NVidia 1080TI)






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 From:  Michael Gibson
9660.165 In reply to 9660.164 
Hi Rich, that's a type of display artifact called "stippling" which can happen in various circumstances.

When MoI draws curves, it pulls them forward towards the eye point slightly so that they will draw on top surfaces that the curves are on.

It's difficult for the display engine to determine a perfect amount of "pull" without doing a lot of calculations that would slow down the display and if it isn't quite enough you will get that kind of display problem. When it pulls too much then it can get "bleed through" instead.

I have some ideas on how to improve that in the future but for now it's just something to ignore.

- Michael
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 From:  Michael Gibson
9660.166 In reply to 9660.164 
It probably happens in your case here because the dimension goes on the construction plane and maybe your object is some distance away from there?

When the bounding box size of the entire scene changes that tends to have an effect on the z-pull factor.

- Michael
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 From:  Rich (-RB-)
9660.167 In reply to 9660.166 
Ahhhh yes the bounding box does sound like a good explanation! All good just figured it may have been something to bring up!

- Rich
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 From:  wayne hill (WAYNEHILL5202)
9660.168 
Hi Michael,

I am working with curves and noticed there is no starting arc angle definition.

There is the "crv.conicEndAngleRadians". Is there a possibility of adding a "crv.conicStartAngleRadians" definition?

The start point angle radians can be calculated from the other definitions, but it would be simpler to use just one.

Thank you,

Wayne
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 From:  Michael Gibson
9660.169 In reply to 9660.168 
Hi Wayne, it should be orienting the frame of the arc so that the x-axis is pointing at the start of the arc so the start angle is always zero.

- Michael
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 From:  wayne hill (WAYNEHILL5202)
9660.170 In reply to 9660.169 
Hi Michael,

I am not familiar orienting the frame. Something for me to research today. What lead me to ask was while working with partial arcs in quadrants not starting at zero angle.

Thank you,

Wayne
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 From:  Michael Gibson
9660.171 In reply to 9660.170 
Hi Wayne, the frame is the plane that the arc is in. The plane has an xaxis and yaxis like this:




The arc starts on the frame's xaxis at an angle of 0, and travels counter-clockwise and ends at the end angle:



- Michael

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 From:  wayne hill (WAYNEHILL5202)
9660.172 In reply to 9660.171 
Thank you for the information.
Wayne
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 From:  Anthony (PROP_DESIGN)
9660.173 In reply to 9660.171 
@michael

lol, i couldn't help but notice, you used your new annotation features to provide support. i'm betting your glad you added them now. no need to go to other programs, like in the past. i seem to remember some old posts of yours where you had to go to rhino to show similar things. anyways, i'm still looking forward to the official v4 release.

anthony
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 From:  Michael Gibson
9660.174 In reply to 9660.173 
Hi anthony, yup they are definitely useful! I am glad to have them although it has taken a whole lot more work than I had thought it would. I'm still working on the last piece of them right now.

I did a survey of various 2D CAD programs a bit ago and I was surprised at how annoying they all were. I didn't find one that I really liked. Maybe they've just been around too long and accumulated too much bloat. I'm sure they work fine if you stick with them.

- Michael
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 From:  Anthony (PROP_DESIGN)
9660.175 In reply to 9660.174 
hi michael,

i haven't used just a 2d cad package since the 90s. but as far as low cost 3d cad, there isn't much out there that is any good imo. MoI is surely the best. I know you have recommended ViaCad a lot. To me, that interface is awful. I have tried Turbocad a long time ago. I used to have Alibre, from way back in the day. I guess Alibre is back as an independent company again. I would say for low cost cad probably Alibre is the only thing I would personally try again. However, with you adding dimensions to MoI that won't be necessary. So I'm grateful for that. The only reason I would get Alibre is if I needed parametric CAD. But being retired, I don't need that. For others, the combination of the two (MoI and Alibre) could be useful though.

Since all the CAD and CAE consolidation, it's a dismal time for engineering software. I wish people would stop giving in and leasing software. The fact that people go for it, just makes the companies keep doing it. Seems like in the future you will have to lease software. Also can't stand cloud stuff. But people seem to go for it. I like owning software and running it locally. Why you would spend tons of time creating stuff and not being able to access it unless you keep paying the company is beyond me. Also trusting that your ip is safe on the cloud is crazy. Customers are making terrible choices that only embolden the companies. Pretty soon people will start leasing virtual turds that they can watch flush on cloud toilets for $1000 a month.

ok, old man rant over. back to your important things to do.
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 From:  stefano (LIGHTWAVE)
9660.176 In reply to 9660.175 
Hi Anthony, my conclusion on software "trends" and cloud direction seem pretty in line with yours
and I'm not that old. I looked at a lot of 3d cad options and then decided on moi.
I like the 'ethos' and value.

Software companies typically trying to release more and more features to justify subscriptions
when really it might have worked fine 10years ago. Dont get me wrong some improvements are
worth paying for but I prefer to decide when. I would for example never swap quickbooks online
for quickbooks desktop. So, Intuit left me behind or alienated a lot of customers there offering less
for more. ADOBE might be same.

Whilst I'm a fresh boy with Moi to me it seems Michael's programme infrastructure is really smart
and flexible. It makes moi a really attractive option for people moving from 2d to 3d
or trying to compliment what they might already do.

I understand v4 is near to completion and hoping for a few more 2d like features to be introduced mainly to do with alignment and positioning. This is the 20% I might use and depend on when doing 2d production designs.
Fast dimensioning and positioning is what I need. The more advanced 3d stuff I'll have to ease into.

Maybe Michael could soon be looking at max exodus of 2d designers seeing another dimension ;0).

Keep ranting, it's safe!

Have a nice weekend everyone.

Stefano
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