I normally do not use MoI in full screen mode so I would not have discovered it. I tried to reproduce Mip (VINC)s problem and it is same for me.
It's this full screen button that causes the problems:

Hi Michel,

> Then Moi's window stays on screen but, randomly, it will hide again, sliding to the right after some
> movement from the mouse or trackpad.
> I checked the trackpad settings and no sliding gesture is activated.

As best I have been able to tell so far this is stuff that the OS is deciding to do on its own, the full screen mode uses something called "spaces", and the sliding is when the OS thinks you're doing a gesture for switching between spaces which by default is done with a 3 finger left/right swipe.

The trackpad setting for it is under Trackpad > "More Gestures" tab > "Swipe between full-screen apps" which by default is on.

I'm still looking into it so I'm not totally sure yet but I've seen reports of other apps doing this "run off the screen" thing when using full screen mode and so it's seeming likely to be an OS "feature".

If you hold down the Option key while you click the green maximize button or double click on the title bar you'll get the old style maximize behavior instead of the full screen one.

- Michael

Yes, Michael
Thanks for the incredibly fast fix.
You seem to manage to create minor miracles almost instantaneously and more major ones overnight.
I hope this whole process is rewarding for you.
eric

Thanks eric! Yes, it's definitely rewarding to be back to doing work that can actually be used by people. It was a pretty long slog there just rewriting and porting stuff to v4. There is still a little bit left to do but not much. Then I'll be able to work on some brand new features which will be nice.

- Michael

@Pilou,

> Bravo!
> The frightening freezing Moi / Forum / Moi seems definitly disapeared! :) (Windows 10)

Great! I'm glad that was the same thing. You should be able to go back to multitasking now! :)

- Michael

Hi agonyii,

re:
> I still wonder how to control/change color of the text for corresponding window titles? I
> am also getting some strange numbers under?

At the moment there isn't any way to change those colors. That's just temporary though until I'm able to work on text display inside of the viewport.

The numbers are the amount of time the last draw in the viewport took in milliseconds. That will stay on for a few releases here to make it easier to compare performance between versions.


> I would also like to know how to keep my panels in the sidebar open at all time

There currently isn't any way set up to control which things in the scene browser are expanded, but I want to make that saved in .3dm files so it could be handled by the template file.

- Michael

Hi Brian,

re:
> V4_12 is now gone, except for _scripts, ui/customui, and ui/nodeeditor, and previously saved
> CommandBarSaved file(s).

Yup when you uninstall the uninstaller won't delete any files that it the installer didn't put there itself, that's to avoid the possibility of it deleting any user data files you created there. So anything you put in there yourself you'll also have to delete yourself after the uninstall.


> ps Not sure if I need to locate an old V3 file to revert the fonts?

To fix V3's font open up moi.ini by using Options > General > "Edit .ini file" button, and inside there find the line that says UIFontName=Open Sans and delete it. Then V3 should go back to using its default font and v4 won't interfere with it anymore.

- Michael

Hi Michael

Thank you for a new version.
I tested both windows and mac versions with windows7 64 and MacOS High Sierra 10.13.1.
I noticed a following problems:

Win+Mac:
1. factory.setInput function stops with "Invalid function argument" error when an argument type is wrong. In fact it's not a MoI problem, but (if I understand clearly) v3 in this case just set input to null and don't stop a script.
I found this errors in two or three my scripts and successfully fixed it. But it can cause a potential problems with other old scripts.
Example:

var f=moi.command.createFactory("loft"); f.setInput(1, ""); moi.ui.alert("Test passed");

2. moi.geometryDatabase.findstyle function returns a wrong data when it creates a new style.

var t=moi.geometryDatabase.findstyle("test", true); moi.ui.alert(typeof(t)); moi.ui.alert(t.index);

Mac only:
3. Something wrong with moi.command.getOption function. I can't read data from moi.ini
Example:

moi.ui.alert(JSON.stringify(moi.command.getOption('LightingOptions', true)));

Win version returns a correct data.

4. Interactive scripts perfarmance problem. MoI v4 18.11 works much faster than with 13.11, but still slower than MoI v3/4(Win) and v3.1(Mac).
You can check it with my SpherePoints+ script. http://moi.maxsm.net/item/2

5. I noticed a rare Orientation Picker bug. Unfortunately I don't know how to reproduce it.

P.S. I tested toNativePath and toScriptPath functions with CustomUI (Mac). Everything is good. Object Library now can correctly create, rename, delete an objects and a preview files in ~/Library/Application Support/Moi/Objects directory. Unfortunately I can't find a way to show previews in Moi html windows. Neither native nor script paths doesn't work.

Hi Michael,

I had already unchecked off all the "More Gesture options" of the trackball
and also experimented with a mouse to be sure it was really related to the fact of entering into the drawing space and not a trackpad reaction.

I also went into Mission Control and tried the Space options (and relogged) without success.
It doesn't trigger the sliding when the pointer stays in MoI's command or tools area but, as soon as the pointer gets in the drawing area it slides.

As Martin wrote, it's not a big thing as I also rarely get into full full screen with my apps.
It's just something I noticed while testing the freezing reported by other users.

Thanks,

Michel

Hi Max, thanks for reporting these issues, I'll be digging into them in a bit here.

- Michael

Hi Michel,

> It doesn't trigger the sliding when the pointer stays in MoI's command or tools area but,
> as soon as the pointer gets in the drawing area it slides.

Thanks for figuring out this additional detail, I can repeat it more consistently now over here as well.

That will let me try a few things like temporarily disable mouse move handling on viewports and see if that has any effect.

- Michael

Hi Michael,
I've tested new v4 beta (version Nov-18-2017) on Mac OS 10.13.1 and the bug is always here.
Open MoI
Draw anything
Hide MoI (command H)
Go back to Moi
Choose a draw tool
Clic on scene > the tool freeze and Panel Pick stay empty........

Hi Michael,

Version 18 Nov installed, thanks! Everything seems to be OK at first glance.

A request:

As the list of keyboard shortcuts grows, the need for sorting options and/or a search function for that list in the Preferences section grows along with it. It'd be great if you could click on the Command row header to sort the shortcut list by commands in alphabetical order. A search function would be even better, preferably instantly showing commands as you start typing in the search field, and with an option for searching keyboard shortcuts or commands.

For inspiration you can take a look at Blender 3D's Preferences ➔ Input section.

Additionally, in the regular UI (outside of the Preferences) Blender has a Spacebar menu that allows you to type in any command, and the result updates as you type, giving you quick access to commands. It'd be great if MoI also offers suggestions of Commands you might mean to type as soon as you start typing a command in the input field.

I'll also post this in the V4 wishlist discussion.

Thanks,

Metin

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visualization • illustration • animation • 3D (print) design — https://metinseven.com

Hi Finema, thanks for testing it. So it seems what you're running into is a different bug. I'll keep trying to reproduce it over here.

- Michael

A small update regarding Max's FatLines script: the latest version works fine in MoI V4 beta. You can download it from Max's site, along with many other useful MoI commands and scripts:

http://moi.maxsm.net

Regards,

Hi Michel and Martin - for the full screen mode sliding away that hint Michel gave about it only happening when moving over a viewport was very helpful. It turns out that it's caused by the little view controls panel window that's shown at the bottom of viewports. That little window is getting shown back on the original desktop space and when that happens the OS zooms you back there again. Now that I know what's happening I can work on a fix, thanks!

If you turn off the view controls panel under Options > View > "Show view controls" you should see that you won't get sent back to the desktop in full screen mode anymore.

- Michael

French Version of Flat lines by Max Smirnov updated for the V4! :)

http://moiscript.weebly.com/scripts-de-max-smirnov.html

Hi Michael,

> If you turn off the view controls panel under Options > View > "Show view controls"
> you should see that you won't get sent back to the desktop in full screen mode anymore.

Confirmed.
I had first thought that it was a OSX Spaces problem like the Sub windows (drawing frames) not being considered to belong to the Main window thus generating an out of focus.
I'd never suspected the control panel of these windows.
That also explains the seemingly random triggering happening afterwards.
When reactivated, the 3d pane won't trigger the sliding because the control panel was redrawn in the 3d pane.
But, when entering into one of the other drawing areas, the control panel appears in the original desktop space and triggers the sliding.
And it's doing that until all four drawing frames are updated.

Thanks,

Michel

Hi Finema,
Are you sure that you are running the Nov 18 version, and not still running the older V4 version?


(Click on the Help button, lower left corner, then on the up arrow, to see the version running.)

- Brian

Yes Brian. I 'm sure it's the last one :)