Hi Michael.

Thanks a lot for this "fast" fix :)

Now, I'm going to test it.

but, just one question before I install it.

1) Must I uninstall the previous version before installing the new one ?

2) On the first V4 beta I copied all the scripts/plugins of the V3 just in order to test them.
If I install this new beta will I lose all these files and i have to copy them back ?

And finally a side note.
I'm noticing that downloading the beta from the URL you provided is very very slow,
and this is not due to my internet connection because it's pretty fast.

Thanks. I stay tuned.

Ciao!

Hi Marco, thanks for testing it!

Each beta release installs into its own separate folder by default, so this one will install to c:\Program Files\MoI 4.0 beta Nov-18-2017 . You don't have to uninstall the previous one.

re: copying files - the new beta will have its own commands folder so anything you did to customize the previous beta won't be in the new one you'll have to copy those files over into it same as you did for the previous one.

- Michael

Freezing problems completely gone for me :)
Thanks a lot.

ASAP I'm going to continue the beta testing in general.

We'll catch up.

Ciao Michael.

Hi Michael,

On Nov 18 version, with OS 10.9.5, after a click to expand the application to full screen (top right corner of window), when I move to the left to enter in MoI's drawing space (using either the trackpad or a mouse), MoI window slides to the right side of the screen and hides immediately.
I have to double click on the application icon in the Dock to make it reappear.
Then Moi's window stays on screen but, randomly, it will hide again, sliding to the right after some movement from the mouse or trackpad.
I checked the trackpad settings and no sliding gesture is activated.

Otherwise, the commands are working well.

Thanks,

Michel

Windows 7
(With previously addition of nonupdated customui and nonupdated nodeeditor, and CommandBar Mod.)

Installed V4_18, leaving V4_12 installed.
In V4_18, saved ui/CommandBar.htm, and copied modded CommandBar file from V4_12. (Modded for customui.)
Copied ui/customui to V4_18.
Tried to copy ui/nodeeditor, but failed to do so. Administrator setting may interfere with copying. Mine are a bit relaxed, permitting copying, but making it harder.
(Later copied ui/nodeeditor.) (Folder copied to, must not be open, I think.)
Copied all of the _scripts.js and _scripts.htm to Command folder. (Command folder must not be open)
Used Windows Control Panel to uninstall V4_12.
V4_12 is now gone, except for _scripts, ui/customui, and ui/nodeeditor, and previously saved CommandBarSaved file(s).

- Brian

ps Not sure if I need to locate an old V3 file to revert the fonts?

(Michael, please delete post if it is incorrect, or too confusing... :-)

Note, nodeeditor 0.97 now has menu icons...

Bravo!
The frightening freezing Moi / Forum / Moi seems definitly disapeared! :) (Windows 10)



I will return for the "Extrude" keeps "Set Dir" when the new functions come back after the stabilization's version! :)

Hi,

I managed to copy paste all my styles and icons from the previous version. I still wonder how to control/change color of the text for corresponding window titles? I am also getting some strange numbers under?

I would also like to know how to keep my panels in the sidebar open at all time - when Moi starts up. I know it's not related to the startup.3dm or moi.ini file. As that info is not saved there where is it then?

I appreciate it!
Thanks a lot!

I normally do not use MoI in full screen mode so I would not have discovered it. I tried to reproduce Mip (VINC)s problem and it is same for me.
It's this full screen button that causes the problems:

Hi Michel,

> Then Moi's window stays on screen but, randomly, it will hide again, sliding to the right after some
> movement from the mouse or trackpad.
> I checked the trackpad settings and no sliding gesture is activated.

As best I have been able to tell so far this is stuff that the OS is deciding to do on its own, the full screen mode uses something called "spaces", and the sliding is when the OS thinks you're doing a gesture for switching between spaces which by default is done with a 3 finger left/right swipe.

The trackpad setting for it is under Trackpad > "More Gestures" tab > "Swipe between full-screen apps" which by default is on.

I'm still looking into it so I'm not totally sure yet but I've seen reports of other apps doing this "run off the screen" thing when using full screen mode and so it's seeming likely to be an OS "feature".

If you hold down the Option key while you click the green maximize button or double click on the title bar you'll get the old style maximize behavior instead of the full screen one.

- Michael

Yes, Michael
Thanks for the incredibly fast fix.
You seem to manage to create minor miracles almost instantaneously and more major ones overnight.
I hope this whole process is rewarding for you.
eric

Thanks eric! Yes, it's definitely rewarding to be back to doing work that can actually be used by people. It was a pretty long slog there just rewriting and porting stuff to v4. There is still a little bit left to do but not much. Then I'll be able to work on some brand new features which will be nice.

- Michael

@Pilou,

> Bravo!
> The frightening freezing Moi / Forum / Moi seems definitly disapeared! :) (Windows 10)

Great! I'm glad that was the same thing. You should be able to go back to multitasking now! :)

- Michael

Hi agonyii,

re:
> I still wonder how to control/change color of the text for corresponding window titles? I
> am also getting some strange numbers under?

At the moment there isn't any way to change those colors. That's just temporary though until I'm able to work on text display inside of the viewport.

The numbers are the amount of time the last draw in the viewport took in milliseconds. That will stay on for a few releases here to make it easier to compare performance between versions.


> I would also like to know how to keep my panels in the sidebar open at all time

There currently isn't any way set up to control which things in the scene browser are expanded, but I want to make that saved in .3dm files so it could be handled by the template file.

- Michael

Hi Brian,

re:
> V4_12 is now gone, except for _scripts, ui/customui, and ui/nodeeditor, and previously saved
> CommandBarSaved file(s).

Yup when you uninstall the uninstaller won't delete any files that it the installer didn't put there itself, that's to avoid the possibility of it deleting any user data files you created there. So anything you put in there yourself you'll also have to delete yourself after the uninstall.


> ps Not sure if I need to locate an old V3 file to revert the fonts?

To fix V3's font open up moi.ini by using Options > General > "Edit .ini file" button, and inside there find the line that says UIFontName=Open Sans and delete it. Then V3 should go back to using its default font and v4 won't interfere with it anymore.

- Michael

Hi Michael

Thank you for a new version.
I tested both windows and mac versions with windows7 64 and MacOS High Sierra 10.13.1.
I noticed a following problems:

Win+Mac:
1. factory.setInput function stops with "Invalid function argument" error when an argument type is wrong. In fact it's not a MoI problem, but (if I understand clearly) v3 in this case just set input to null and don't stop a script.
I found this errors in two or three my scripts and successfully fixed it. But it can cause a potential problems with other old scripts.
Example:

var f=moi.command.createFactory("loft"); f.setInput(1, ""); moi.ui.alert("Test passed");

2. moi.geometryDatabase.findstyle function returns a wrong data when it creates a new style.

var t=moi.geometryDatabase.findstyle("test", true); moi.ui.alert(typeof(t)); moi.ui.alert(t.index);

Mac only:
3. Something wrong with moi.command.getOption function. I can't read data from moi.ini
Example:

moi.ui.alert(JSON.stringify(moi.command.getOption('LightingOptions', true)));

Win version returns a correct data.

4. Interactive scripts perfarmance problem. MoI v4 18.11 works much faster than with 13.11, but still slower than MoI v3/4(Win) and v3.1(Mac).
You can check it with my SpherePoints+ script. http://moi.maxsm.net/item/2

5. I noticed a rare Orientation Picker bug. Unfortunately I don't know how to reproduce it.

P.S. I tested toNativePath and toScriptPath functions with CustomUI (Mac). Everything is good. Object Library now can correctly create, rename, delete an objects and a preview files in ~/Library/Application Support/Moi/Objects directory. Unfortunately I can't find a way to show previews in Moi html windows. Neither native nor script paths doesn't work.

Hi Michael,

I had already unchecked off all the "More Gesture options" of the trackball
and also experimented with a mouse to be sure it was really related to the fact of entering into the drawing space and not a trackpad reaction.

I also went into Mission Control and tried the Space options (and relogged) without success.
It doesn't trigger the sliding when the pointer stays in MoI's command or tools area but, as soon as the pointer gets in the drawing area it slides.

As Martin wrote, it's not a big thing as I also rarely get into full full screen with my apps.
It's just something I noticed while testing the freezing reported by other users.

Thanks,

Michel

Hi Max, thanks for reporting these issues, I'll be digging into them in a bit here.

- Michael

Hi Michel,

> It doesn't trigger the sliding when the pointer stays in MoI's command or tools area but,
> as soon as the pointer gets in the drawing area it slides.

Thanks for figuring out this additional detail, I can repeat it more consistently now over here as well.

That will let me try a few things like temporarily disable mouse move handling on viewports and see if that has any effect.

- Michael

Hi Michael,
I've tested new v4 beta (version Nov-18-2017) on Mac OS 10.13.1 and the bug is always here.
Open MoI
Draw anything
Hide MoI (command H)
Go back to Moi
Choose a draw tool
Clic on scene > the tool freeze and Panel Pick stay empty........

Hi Michael,

Version 18 Nov installed, thanks! Everything seems to be OK at first glance.

A request:

As the list of keyboard shortcuts grows, the need for sorting options and/or a search function for that list in the Preferences section grows along with it. It'd be great if you could click on the Command row header to sort the shortcut list by commands in alphabetical order. A search function would be even better, preferably instantly showing commands as you start typing in the search field, and with an option for searching keyboard shortcuts or commands.

For inspiration you can take a look at Blender 3D's Preferences ➔ Input section.

Additionally, in the regular UI (outside of the Preferences) Blender has a Spacebar menu that allows you to type in any command, and the result updates as you type, giving you quick access to commands. It'd be great if MoI also offers suggestions of Commands you might mean to type as soon as you start typing a command in the input field.

I'll also post this in the V4 wishlist discussion.

Thanks,

Metin

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