Opinion about some good and robust Polygonal-SDS modeler under 200$
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 From:  mkdm
8090.1 
Hi Michael,

I'm planning to buy a Polygonal-SDS modeler under 200$ and i'm testing :

- Silo : last upgrade 3 or more years ago...I think that Nevercenter has definitely stopped its developing.
- NVIL : Strange UI but it seems very, very powerful, and has active support and developing from the programmer (Istonia)
- Rocket3F : Very young product from NVIL creator (Istonia) and Samardac, with a simplified set of tools compared to NVIL
and with a streamlined UI and a very fast workflow, like Moi's way.

Honestly I almost decided to discard Silo, due to its developing stop.

So...I thought I'd ask your advice.

Do you know NVIL ? What do you think about it ?

My intention is to find a good (and not expensive) SDS modeler to include in my current workflow : Moi and Rhino + 3DCoat + Thea Render

P.s. I'm currently also using the free and very particular SDS modeler Wings3D.
It's very powerful and has a unique set of tools, with a sort of artificial intelligence, due to its developing based on Erlang programming language,
but unfortunately it lacks with HighPoly objects.

Have a nice day.

- Marco (mkdm)
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
8090.2 In reply to 8090.1 
May you can also wait the new ZBrush Core! ;)
Hight Polys is a game for it! :)
http://www.zbrushcentral.com/showthread.php?202273-Announcing-ZBrushCore

Sorry i have not the future price!

EDITED: 13 Sep 2016 by PILOU

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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
8090.3 
3D Coat for no commercial use 99$
http://3dcoat.com/buy/
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
8090.4 
Neobarok free and crazzy!
https://neobarok.com/#home
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
8090.5 
Blender Free but some particular :)
https://www.blender.org/
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 From:  mkdm
8090.6 In reply to 8090.2 
Hi Pilou,

3DCoat : I already own a commercial version and it's a fantastic software!
Blender : I never liked it, sorry...
Zbrush core : sounds interesting... but we'll know more on September 30th

P.s. I know that also you are testing Rocket3F.

Do You know NVIL ? Did you deeply use it recently ?

Ciao!

- Marco (mkdm)
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
8090.7 In reply to 8090.6 
Nvil is too difficult for me! Too much shortcuts to learn! Life is too short! :)

Rocket 3D is more friendly! More light! Same sort of UI than Moi!
and...this is not so bad, isn't it? ;)
<<R3F Free version will be fully functional, but:
- you will not have access to Tool Tips, Site Tutorials, Forum and Instant help
- everytime you will launch R3F you will see splash screen "Free version" and have to wait about 6-9 sec till it will be closed
- It has "FREE" button.
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 From:  glmr
8090.8 
Silo2 is alive and pretty good
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
8090.9 
Else for not too very height number of polygons there is SketchuUp Make (free)
+ Vertex Tools + SubD + QuadFace Tools (free) + tones of free plugins for anythings! :)
https://www.sketchup.com/products/sketchup-make free
http://evilsoftwareempire.com/vertex-tools/ 20$
http://evilsoftwareempire.com/subd 40$

By 600v aka xlrlxi (a Sketchup Master) http://600v.deviantart.com/gallery/ (30 pages of crazzy models : retro cars, design, SF buildings, etc...)

EDITED: 14 Sep 2016 by PILOU

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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
8090.10 
Else free TSplines inside Fusion 360 (free for hobbyist, enthousiast, students & StartUp !
http://www.tsplines.com/blog/2009/05/converting-obj-car-model-to-nurbs/ info
http://www.autodesk.com/products/fusion-360/try-buy (all in one)


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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
8090.11 
And about Wing3D there is ManifoldLab who over pass its capacity! (free) Wings3D is include !
Manifold lab : https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56147717/freely-donate.html
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 From:  mkdm
8090.12 In reply to 8090.11 
Hi Pilou!

Thank you very much for your effort in help me in my choice!

ASAP i will investigate Wing3D + ManifoldLab.

I'm not a fan of SketchuUp Make...sorry :)

Have a nice day!

- Marco (mkdm)
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 From:  mkdm
8090.13 In reply to 8090.8 
Hi glmr,

> Silo2 is alive and pretty good

Where did you get this info...everywhere in the web they say that Nevercenter has stopped developing some years ago...

Nice day.

- Marco (mkdm)
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
8090.14 In reply to 8090.12 
As I am fan of SketchUp and find it the more easy one on the planet for anybody...
Of course it's not sweet for character modeling!

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 From:  glmr
8090.15 In reply to 8090.13 
mkdm
I bought Silo2 ad it works. Forum is alive also.
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 From:  mkdm
8090.16 
Hi Micahel,

I guess that you are very busy, so I'm sorry to bother you with my last question,
but when you have some garbage time, please read my previous post http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=8090.1,
regarding my investigations in order to buy a good Polygonal-SDS modeler under 200$ to couple with Moi.

I think that your advice will be very useful for me.

Meanwhile, I wish to thank Pilou and other guys that have already answered :)

Nice day,

- Marco (mkdm)
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 From:  mkdm
8090.17 In reply to 8090.15 
Hi glmr,

...OK...but the problem is that its developing has ENDED.

I want to buy a software that is in active development.

Anyway, thanks.

- Marco (mkdm)
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 From:  adamio
8090.18 In reply to 8090.17 
IMP www.imp4mac.com The developes recently got a job at AMD as Graphics Software Engineer https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-giannopoulos-80a17583

So I’m not sure if he is planning to develop further considering his new position etc. The toolset is limited but it works as advertised.

I was also imprest with viewport performance, in some cases it did put Modo to shame. Really sad considering Modo is been in development for over a decade & IMP is a $30 app.
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
8090.19 
Yep for Mac you have Cheetah 3D ;) 99$
Cool interface!
http://www.cheetah3d.com/
http://www.cheetah3d.com/featurelist.php
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 From:  mkdm
8090.20 In reply to 8090.18 
Hi adamio,

Thanks for your indication, but...i'm sorry....i forget to say that i use Windows 8.1 Pro and not Mac OS X.

Nice day,

- Marco (mkdm)
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