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 From:  Rich_Art
5365.18 In reply to 5365.16 
>>>Was this file made with MoI?<<<

Yes it was.. :-)

@Michael,
Thanks for the explanation.

Peace,
Rich_Art. ;-)

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 From:  Michael Gibson
5365.19 In reply to 5365.18 
Hi Rich_Art, so it appears to be a bug somewhere in the triangulator.

If you export with "Output N-gons" the actual n-gon will get written despite the display being wrong. But if you export as "Output: Quads & Triangles" or "Output: Triangles only", then those areas will be missing in the output as well.

If you need to export triangles instead of n-gons, you can use the attached model version - here I've edited those areas to be made up of trimmed planes as Burr mentions above and those happen to avoid the triangulation bug.

I will continue to investigate the triangulation bug, it's been quite a while since I've seen one of those.

But the attached model should get you around this issue for now anyway.

- Michael
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
5365.20 In reply to 5365.19 
By Taron with Sculptris ;)
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Pilou
Is beautiful that please without concept!
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 From:  DannyT (DANTAS)
5365.21 In reply to 5365.19 
Hi Michael,

> Hi Rich_Art, so it appears to be a bug
> somewhere in the triangulator.

I've had a couple of these in the past and accepted it as a graphic glitch as it wrote out the surface okay and I moved on, did you want me to report these in the future?

@ Pilou, that's one ugly looking creature, kind of cool though :)

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~Danny~
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 From:  Rich_Art
5365.22 In reply to 5365.19 
Thanks Michael.
As said, it is no big deal. I'm just doodling with Moi....

Peace,
Rich_Art. :-)

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 From:  Michael Gibson
5365.23 In reply to 5365.21 
Hi Danny,

> I've had a couple of these in the past and accepted it as a graphic glitch as it wrote out the
> surface okay and I moved on, did you want me to report these in the future?

Yeah, it would be good to get these cases so I could look into them. If it's a cosmetic glitch it might go on the back burner for a while but it would be good to have the buggy case all the same. You can just send them to me at moi@moi3d.com .

Thanks, - Michael
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 From:  DannyT (DANTAS)
5365.24 In reply to 5365.23 
No probs Michael, will do.

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 From:  NightCabbage
5365.25 
Oh cool, a new beta :)

Are we still fine to use our old .ini files?

The new one looks a bit different...
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 From:  Michael Gibson
5365.26 In reply to 5365.25 
Hi NightCabbage, yup the same .ini file from previous versions should work fine. There actually haven't really been any changes there for a while, what is it that seems different?

- Michael
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 From:  NightCabbage
5365.27 In reply to 5365.26 
Oh, ok, must just be general layout or structure. I think mine's probably from an early V2 beta anyway :P
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 From:  Michael Gibson
5365.28 In reply to 5365.27 
Hi NightCabbage - it's possible that the ordering of the different sections may be different from v2 for when a brand new moi.ini file is created from scratch when there is not any existing one. But that ordering doesn't make any actual difference in use.

Also if you push the "Edit .ini file" button on the Options dialog, it will modify the .ini file to prettify it for direct editing by putting in an extra blank line to separate each section, if you have not pushed that button there won't be any spacing in it.

- Michael
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 From:  NightCabbage
5365.29 
Hah, never knew that, cool :)
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 From:  niko (NICKP100)
5365.30 In reply to 5365.1 
Nice changes to the network command....still waiting on these continuity options though/and or merge surface command(please,please,pretty please make it part of the UI)
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 From:  Mike K4ICY (MAJIKMIKE)
5365.31 In reply to 5365.30 
> still waiting on these continuity options

...the dream! ;-)

Imagine a utopian future world of peace, harmony, Match Surface edges, >2 edge Blends surface patches, and surface curvature continuity tools.

Didn't Walt Disney champion that ideal once?
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 From:  SteveMacc (STEVEH)
5365.32 
Be careful what you wish for, Mike. Surface continuity may not work the way you think it will.
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 From:  kevjon
5365.33 In reply to 5365.31 
> still waiting on these continuity options

Me to, this is the single feature I'm looking forward to seeing in MoI the most.
~Kevin~
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 From:  Mike K4ICY (MAJIKMIKE)
5365.34 In reply to 5365.32 
Well, if there's any positive reassurance about implementing features like continuity, is that Michael is a master at perfecting and carefully weighing the finer points of his programming. If it's going to suck, he's going to let us know why, no loss. If he can work it... MoI just gets better!

"Surface Continuity" is sure to be a complex science in of itself - but I would first settle for at least the ability to "Tangent" surface edge coincidences. Even if the resultant surfaces look a little lumpy, at least we can get rig of those seams.
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 From:  PaQ
5365.35 In reply to 5365.1 
Hi Michael,

Thanks a lot for the update.

I'm not sure I really understand the network fitting mode,

On the example here, every mode seems to give the same result in the surface complexity.



... do you have any visual example/result when using those modes ?

EDITED: 3 Dec 2015 by PAQ

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 From:  Michael Gibson
5365.36 In reply to 5365.35 
Hi PaQ - that's a bug - the case of an only 3 or 4 sided network with no interior sections is handled by a special case and doesn't currently get the new options applied to it at all.

I'll update that for the next release. Currently if you stick in a middle curve in there in either direction then the new options should work.

Use Construct > Curve > Iso to quickly plop in a curve in the middle of that surface you got there, then redo the network including the middle curve.

- Michael
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 From:  TpwUK
5365.37 In reply to 5365.36 
Oh cool Michael, I have been missing that form of network structure, it is a must have for me. Thanks !!

Martin
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