Hi rhadiem,

> this is asking for a license number in order to download,
> is this separate from the trial?

You're probably seeing the previous version of that page which your web browser has cached. Try pushing the Reload button there, or use F5 or Ctrl+F5 which usually will refresh the page by making your browser fetch the latest version of it.

Also here is a direct link just to the download itself:
http://moi3d.com/download/osx/MoI v2.5 beta Jan-31-2012.app.zip

- Michael

thanks Michael :)

Hi Michael

In this OSX version, where do I copy scripts, I like using the CustomDistance script.

Cheers, Steve

Hi Steve,

> In this OSX version, where do I copy scripts, I like
> using the CustomDistance script.

Right-click on the application and choose "Show Package Contents" - that will then open up a Finder window that is browsing the directory structure in there and then go to drive_c/moi/commands - that commands directory is where you can copy plug-in commands like CustomDistance.

- Michael

Hi Michael, I just tried it. It's wonderful to see the native OS X file dialogs. You also seem to have fixed this CMD-TAB app switching bug. I wasn't able to reproduce it.

When I started the app I saw this warning:



I was brave and allowed it but I wonder what this is and if I can dissallow it.

Thanks a lot for the new version,

Martin

Hi Martin, hmmm I don't really know what that is about - MoI itself does not try to contact anything over the network. WineskinX11 is part of the porting infrastructure that I'm using to make things work, maybe it is using some kind of socket connections between different pieces.

Or it may have something to do with this anti-hacking protection mechanism thing that this version has on it since it's more like a trial version and does not require a license key.

If it's that second thing then in the final release version that won't be present.

For now I guess you'll need to hit "Allow" though. It looks like you only need to do that once though, it doesn't bother you any more after that does it?

- Michael

If Wine(skin) is anything like Parallels, Vmware etc, I guess this is just the Wine VM core asking for the normal connectivity to the network that your Mac will have so that things like browsers etc and any program that needs to be accessible from anywhere other than your host Mac.

Hi Martin, I guess from what I can see that is complaining about some of the methods that MoI uses for communicating between some various sub programs that it uses for different tasks.

You may see another one pop up that says something about moi_osx_funcs.app - that's the piece that implements the native file dialogs.

So if you see those firewall warnings pop up you'll need to hit allow on them for MoI to be able to function properly, and I think once you have done that once it seems to remember that and won't bother you again.

- Michael

Hi Chris,

> If Wine(skin) is anything like Parallels, Vmware etc, I guess
> this is just the Wine VM core

Wine is not quite the same kind of system as Parallels and VMWare - Wine doesn't actually run a full "virtual machine" - it's more like a compatibility library that translates Windows calls into their unix equivalents.

It doesn't really emulate a full machine environment, it only does anything when MoI makes a Windows system call.

Parallels and VMWare are pretty different - they actually run a full copy of Windows in a completely virtualized environment.

- Michael

Seems like I can turn that off.

I went to System Preferences > Security > Firewall > Advanced and turned on "Block incoming connections" for WineskinX11

MoI starts without problems so it seems to be not required to allow incoming connections.

I guess this message shows up only if the OS X firewall is activated and you start MoI for the first time.
I think I also saw this message with the previous Beta because there was a second WineskinX11 entry in the Firewall settings. Also set to "allow". I blocked both.

What is the process to resize the whole window? I'm not able to by clicking and dragging lower-right corner.

---update----
Force quit and then launched again. Works OK now.

Almost makes me wish I owned a Mac :-)

Michael... You are unbelievable! Moi looks amazing on OSX, It feels like you developed a native OSX app!. Everything is very snappy, viewports are smooth and fast, there are occasional display glitches when e.g. turn on the browser or switch viewports, but that is not even annoying:) I have one of these "27 inch iMacs and MoI rocks:) hehe I am very happy man! Thank you.

And the ability to have another MoI window open and copy and pasting between is awsome!!

Thanks a lot Michael,

it's working smooth so far!

Best regards
Stefan

Hi Paul,

> What is the process to resize the whole window? I'm not able to by
> clicking and dragging lower-right corner.
>
> ---update----
> Force quit and then launched again. Works OK now.

Please let me know if you run into this resizing problem again.

Also right now resizing the window is a little stuttery/glitchy and I'm going to see if I can tune it up a bit.

- Michael

Hi olio,

> Michael... You are unbelievable! Moi looks amazing on OSX,
> It feels like you developed a native OSX app!.

I'm glad it is not feeling too out of place for you!

I think having the native file open and save dialogs helps quite a bit.


> Everything is very snappy, viewports are smooth and fast,

Great! Yes, that's one of the best advantages of this porting method - MoI's own program code runs directly and so it runs at full native speed when doing its own calculations.


> there are occasional display glitches when e.g. turn on
> the browser or switch viewports, but that is not even
> annoying:)

Yup, this hiccup happens when a 3D viewport gets resized - I'm going to be looking into it to see if I can fix it up, but at least it's only a cosmetic problem and not something that really gets in the way of actually doing stuff.

- Michael

thank you Michael.

spent about 2 hours with it last night, touching up some models I thought I had completed :)

worked fine for the simple stuff I'm doing.

Cheers, Steve

Don't work for me.

Wineskin Error.
"ERROR! Launching wineserver failed! No new wineserver PID found!"

I enabled and disabled "Wineskin Winery" in firewall from System settings. I don't know what to do more. Please help.

Michael,

I spent some time with this last night. The basic functions seenm to be working well for me. I will try some more complex work later.

Thanks a lot for this...

J. Tucker