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 From:  Michael T. (MICTU_UTCIM)
4879.16 
Almost makes me wish I owned a Mac :-)
Michael Tuttle a.k.a. mictu http://www.coroflot.com/DesignsByTuttle
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 From:  olio
4879.17 In reply to 4879.14 
Michael... You are unbelievable! Moi looks amazing on OSX, It feels like you developed a native OSX app!. Everything is very snappy, viewports are smooth and fast, there are occasional display glitches when e.g. turn on the browser or switch viewports, but that is not even annoying:) I have one of these "27 inch iMacs and MoI rocks:) hehe I am very happy man! Thank you.
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 From:  olio
4879.18 In reply to 4879.17 
And the ability to have another MoI window open and copy and pasting between is awsome!!
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 From:  amur (STEFAN)
4879.19 
Thanks a lot Michael,

it's working smooth so far!

Best regards
Stefan
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 From:  Michael Gibson
4879.20 In reply to 4879.15 
Hi Paul,

> What is the process to resize the whole window? I'm not able to by
> clicking and dragging lower-right corner.
>
> ---update----
> Force quit and then launched again. Works OK now.

Please let me know if you run into this resizing problem again.

Also right now resizing the window is a little stuttery/glitchy and I'm going to see if I can tune it up a bit.

- Michael
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 From:  Michael Gibson
4879.21 In reply to 4879.17 
Hi olio,

> Michael... You are unbelievable! Moi looks amazing on OSX,
> It feels like you developed a native OSX app!.

I'm glad it is not feeling too out of place for you!

I think having the native file open and save dialogs helps quite a bit.


> Everything is very snappy, viewports are smooth and fast,

Great! Yes, that's one of the best advantages of this porting method - MoI's own program code runs directly and so it runs at full native speed when doing its own calculations.


> there are occasional display glitches when e.g. turn on
> the browser or switch viewports, but that is not even
> annoying:)

Yup, this hiccup happens when a 3D viewport gets resized - I'm going to be looking into it to see if I can fix it up, but at least it's only a cosmetic problem and not something that really gets in the way of actually doing stuff.

- Michael
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 From:  stevecim
4879.22 In reply to 4879.8 
thank you Michael.

spent about 2 hours with it last night, touching up some models I thought I had completed :)

worked fine for the simple stuff I'm doing.

Cheers, Steve
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 From:  artisanicview
4879.23 
Don't work for me.

Wineskin Error.
"ERROR! Launching wineserver failed! No new wineserver PID found!"

I enabled and disabled "Wineskin Winery" in firewall from System settings. I don't know what to do more. Please help.
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 From:  jtucker
4879.24 In reply to 4879.23 
Michael,

I spent some time with this last night. The basic functions seenm to be working well for me. I will try some more complex work later.

Thanks a lot for this...

J. Tucker
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 From:  Michael Gibson
4879.25 In reply to 4879.23 
Hi artisanicview,

> Don't work for me.
>
> Wineskin Error.
> "ERROR! Launching wineserver failed! No new wineserver PID found!"


Do you possibly have some kind of restricted permissions set on your system, especially on your temp folder?

If so then that could cause problems like this - this probably means there was some problem setting things up in /tmp

You also might try doing a system reboot which will clean out your /tmp folder and maybe that will help.

But if you have done some kind of lockdown process on your machine's tmp folder you may need to set that back to its original permissions in order to get MoI to run.

- Michael
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 From:  wzhang
4879.26 
Thanks Micheal!!

Works great on my mac pro running 10.6.8
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 From:  artisanicview
4879.27 In reply to 4879.25 
I rebooted, and no change. I'm getting the same error.

> But if you have done some kind of lockdown process on your machine's tmp folder you may need to set that back to its original permissions in order to get MoI to run.

Please, can you be a little more explicit? I can't find any tmp folder in my system. I have a MacBookAir 13" from 2010 with OSX 10.7.1
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 From:  Michael Gibson
4879.28 In reply to 4879.27 
Hi artisanicview,

> Please, can you be a little more explicit? I can't find any
> tmp folder in my system. I have a MacBookAir 13" from
> 2010 with OSX 10.7.1

There should normally be a directory named /tmp at the root of your filesystem.

Why was it that you set up the firewall initially, were you following some instructions on how to lock down your system? If so, can you point me to those instructions? They might have involved changing some default setting in your filesystem in such a way that MoI won't run on your system after that.

Or are you possibly running any kind of system-wide utility programs like a virus checker or anything else similar to that?

- Michael
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 From:  ronaldo
4879.29 In reply to 4879.1 


was looking forward to trying this but i'm getting these errors related to wineskin when i try the Mol v2.5 beta jan-31-2012. i'm using OS10.5.8.
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 From:  Michael Gibson
4879.30 In reply to 4879.29 
Hi Ronaldo,

> was looking forward to trying this but i'm getting these
> errors related to wineskin when i try
>
> i'm using OS10.5.8

The MoI OSX version requires OSX version 10.6 (Snow Leopard) or 10.7 (Lion).

It will not run on OS 10.5.x , so that's the problem that you're running into.

This is because Apple's current development tools will only produce programs that work on 10.6 or higher.

- Michael
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 From:  ronaldo
4879.31 In reply to 4879.30 
i see, that explains it. another reason to go to snow lion. am looking forward to trying it. will be back. thanks very much.
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 From:  stevecim
4879.32 In reply to 4879.31 
Hi Michael

I had been using the OSX public beta for about 2 hours working with the same file (but I do use incrementalSaves) then all of a sudden and boolean functions like merge and diff, started working very weirdly , shut down MoI loaded up the same file than boolean functions started working correctly .

I've almost finished for tonight, if I get the same problems again, I'll let you know

Cheers, Steve
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 From:  Michael Gibson
4879.33 In reply to 4879.32 
Hi Steve - if the objects that you were working with became open surfaces instead of a closed volume, that will make the booleans behave differently since they're mostly oriented towards working on closed volume objects.

So if you run into this again, look at the object type indicator when your objects are selected - that's in the upper right corner of the properties panel that shows the properties of the current selected objects. If that indicator says "Surface" or "Joined Srf" that means that the object is not a closed volume, it will read "Solid" if it is closed.

Anyway, that's one thing to check on if booleans start to behave differently.

- Michael
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 From:  artisanicview
4879.34 In reply to 4879.28 
I tried all sorts of thing. I changed permissions on /tmp directory, I activated and deactivated the firewall and nothing. I'm getting the same error message. Maybe because I also have other Wine applications in my system? I have WinOnX and also some Windows games wrapped as executables around Wine to make them work under OSX.

P.S. I opened Console and read the logs. Seems that WineskinX11 is crashing. If you need the crash logs I can sendyou.

EDITED: 9 Feb 2012 by ARTISANICVIEW

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 From:  Michael Gibson
4879.35 In reply to 4879.34 
Hi artisanicview,

> Maybe because I also have other Wine applications in my system?

It's not supposed to be a problem to have this, but maybe there is some kind of bug related to that.


> P.S. I opened Console and read the logs. Seems that
> WineskinX11 is crashing. If you need the crash logs I
> can sendyou.

Yes, can you please e-mail them to me at moi@moi3d.com so I can take a look.


Thanks,
- Michael
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