I have not purchased yet because I was waiting for the Mac version. Any chance of getting a trial of the Mac version at this stage?

Thanks

Hi Jeff, right now it's at the "beta" stage - I do expect to have a trial version in the future, but I make trial versions for fully released programs, not for each beta release.

So there will be a trial for it eventually when the beta period is finished.

- Michael

Thank you so much Michael! Now I don't need my pc anymore. :)

Installation went well, but the copy and/paste command didn't work.

Hi wzhang, I'm glad it will be useful!

Yes it looks like Copy/Paste is one thing that is broken - I will be looking into fixing that up.

Please let me know if you find any other functions that don't work right either.

- Michael

>When you go to draw a line or something that uses snaps, are the little labels that attach to snap points that say what it is like "End", etc.. also missing?

I use an English system. Yes, the snap point labels are also missing.

I guess my problem is that I deleted a lot of OS X fonts from which I thought that I will never need them. Fonts like Arial, Trebuchet, MS Sans Serif and so on. Yesterday I used Pacifist to extract missing fonts from my Snow Leopard Install DVD and installed a lot of them. But unfortunately I still didn't find the right one. I think when you tell me the name of the font used for the labels and the Shortcut window I'll be able to solve the problem.

>I'm curious to see how(if) it would run on a 13" mbp or air..

I just installed MoI on my *11-inch* MacBook Air bought in January 2011 (with Snow Leopard) and it's totally useable.

Hi Martin,

> I guess my problem is that I deleted a lot of OS X fonts
> from which I thought that I will never need them.

Yeah that's probably the problem then - right now it's set up to use Arial and I had just assumed that it would be present since it's part of the stock OSX install.

There are a few variations of Arial, including stuff like Arial.ttf, Arial Black, Arial bold, etc... if you can get those back into your /Library/Fonts folder that should hopefully fix up that problem.

It's also possible to change the font that MoI uses for the UI - that's a setting in the moi.ini file, let me know if you want to change that and I will describe how to do that. Some fonts seem to cause problems though.

- Michael

Hi Martin,

> I just installed MoI on my *11-inch* MacBook Air bought in
> January 2011 (with Snow Leopard) and it's totally useable.

That's good to hear - so far the problems seem to be related to systems using the Intel video chipset for the graphics.

- Michael

Michael Thank you for taking the time to make this happen. I sincerely appreciate Running MoI on my Mac.

> Michael Thank you for taking the time to make this happen.
> I sincerely appreciate Running MoI on my Mac.

No problem, I really hope it will be useful!

Please let me know if you find anything that does not work right.

Thanks,
- Michael

Regarding shortcuts:

ctrl-X, ctrl-S, ctrl-O, ctrl-N, F1 for example work right out of the box.
I was not able to assign the cmd key instead of the ctrl key. The Key field remains blank when I tried to fill in cmd-X for example.

ctrl-C and ctrl-V do nothing. This is bad since there's no menu alternative.

Trying to assign the Backspace key instead of the Delete key also leaves the Key field blank. But ctrl-X works fine as an alternative.

Hi Martin - so the MoI shortcut key editor thing is rather primitive and you actually need to type in the label of the key you want to use there, not just press the key itself.

So for example to assign Backspace, type in the actual text:   Backspace   in that field and then that should work. Just hitting backspace will actually just edit the text in that field and not assign that key.

I want to overhaul this in the future to work more like you were expecting it to, it's just been hard to dedicate much time to it yet since it's not something that you have to deal with usually all that much.


> ctrl-C and ctrl-V do nothing. This is bad since there's no
> menu alternative.

Well, there is on the Edit palette on the side pane, but it's not a shortcut problem, the actual functions for copy and paste don't seem to be working properly and I'll be looking into fixing them.


To get the Cmd key working instead of Ctrl you can right now try editing the shortcuts and putting in Alt in place of Ctrl and then it seems like they will work with the Cmd key actually.

That will be another area that I'll need to tune up for the OSX version, to recognize Cmd as a shortcut key and to have the defaults use Cmd+c for example instead of Ctrl.


Please let me know if you run into any other problems than these.


- Michael

Thanks. Michael.

Working great - except the issues mention above - in a 2009 iMac 27", 2,8 Ghz, 4GB, ATI HD 4850 512 MB, Mac OS Lion 10.7.2.

Moi was the main reason to switch to Win PC: Moi is an Amazing application!

Cheers, Carlos

>There are a few variations of Arial, including stuff like Arial.ttf, Arial Black, Arial bold, etc... if you can get those back into your /Library/Fonts folder that should hopefully fix up that problem.

Thanks a lot. The Arial family was the first font I tried yesterday but I made the mistake to install all fonts into my Username/Library/Fonts folder. I just moved all Arials to /Library/Fonts, restarted MoI and enjoyed the result.

>type in the actual text: Backspace in that field
Works fine, thanks!

>I want to overhaul this in the future
Not needed if there's a shortcut section for OS X users in a future help file.

>try putting in Alt in place of Ctrl
Works fine. Don't waste your time in fixing that just mention it in a future help file.

>Please let me know if you run into any other problems than these.

We'll do.

So far MoI works very well, it's fast and responsive and best of all I have no need to fire up VMWare and look at Windows 7 (Sorry I can't stand it).

The resizing display stuff is also no problem for me.

Also the Windows file dialog is totally usable. With it's File Save Undo .. Icons at the bottom MoI clearly isn't expected to work exactly as an native OS X app anyway and that's fine. I can do what I need in MoI now without any virtualisation software. I couldn't be more satisfied just as it is now.

Also allowing one licence for both operating systems is a very generous policy by you. I'll probably (hopefully) don't need Windows for the rest of my live but others use both. I wished more companies would act like you.

I'm looking forward to upgrade to the OS X version MoI.

Hi Martin,

> Thanks a lot. The Arial family was the first font I tried
> yesterday but I made the mistake to install all fonts into
> my Username/Library/Fonts folder.

Actually what you did there was supposed to work but it looks like I've got a bug in the thing that was supposed to also look in that alternate Username/Library/Fonts folder.

So I'm glad you mentioned that part so that I can fix that up too.

For this first version the fonts will need to go into /Library/Fonts for the moment to be seen by MoI.

- Michael

Hi Martin,

> >I want to overhaul this in the future
> Not needed if there's a shortcut section for OS X users
> in a future help file.

Well, I really do need to overhaul it at some point because a lot of people expect for it to work in the more usual way of doing the keystroke that you want to set, and a lot of people won't read help file stuff.


> So far MoI works very well, it's fast and responsive and
> best of all I have no need to fire up VMWare and look at
> Windows 7 (Sorry I can't stand it).

This is great news that it's fast and responsive - that seems to be one area that this particular porting mechanism is good at doing.


> Also the Windows file dialog is totally usable. With it's File
> Save Undo .. Icons at the bottom MoI clearly isn't expected
> to work exactly as an native OS X app anyway and that's fine.

Yeah - it's somewhat that way actually on the Windows side as well - that it doesn't particularly follow typical Windows UI conventions there either. That's kind of an advantage at this point though since it doesn't look overall as weird as a regular Windows program would running under OS X. That is until that file open dialog comes up which really does stick out like a sore thumb. I definitely want to try and get the native dialog working, I don't think it will be too much work.


Anyway, I'm really glad that it's working well for you so far!

- Michael

thank you thank you thank you!! been waiting/hoping for this a long time! so, as a student, if i buy the EDU version of v2 now will i get to use the beta? and what's the upgrade path to v3 when 1.0 comes out? this is really good news and it's looking good too, great job!

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thaNX!!!!!Thanxxxxxxxx.....Michael you rock!!!!!

Hi Michael,

Here's the screenshot on my black mac (running lion).