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 From:  Michael Gibson
4737.134 In reply to 4737.133 
Hi Jeff,

> i have my mother company buy a v2 license (they use
> windows in the office).. which i'm sure they will install moi
> on if they were to buy it..
>
> i use that license on my machine with 2.5 osx when available.
>

Are you the one that would be using it on the Windows install also?

Or do you mean that someone else would be using the Windows installed one, and then you would additionally be using the OSX version on top of that?

If you have 2 different people that are going to be using the software at the same time then you need to purchase 2 licenses for that scenario.

You can install the same license in multiple places, just so long as it is only being actively run in one place at a time, that's meant for one person to be able to use the same license on multiple machines that they use, not for multiple people to be using the same license at the same time.

For multiple people all using it at the same time each person should have their own license for that kind of use.

- Michael
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 From:  Jeff Hammond (JEFF_HAMMOND)
4737.135 In reply to 4737.134 
right.. that's what i figured but just asking to be sure.

they're in FL, im in NYC.. there would be times i'm sure when both the windows and osx version are open at the same time.

but they bought my indigo and sketchup licenses (as well as their own) [and have said they'll transfer one of their rhino licenses to me when that time comes because rhino is too confusing for them :-)) ]
so maybe i can line up two sales for you via them :)
otherwise, i'll just get my own personal license as i'm itching to bring moi into my designflow..


thanks for the info.
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
4737.136 
@Jeff : and I believe that you can put your Moi version on USB key!
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 From:  Luis (LFUNG)
4737.137 In reply to 4737.121 
FYI. Not to be outdone by the machine, I was able to get Moi working on my little black mac by setting the offscreen rendering mode to "backbuffer" instead of "fbo" which seems to be the default.

Will test some more later on...

--Luis
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 From:  Michael Gibson
4737.138 In reply to 4737.137 
That's great news Luis!

It turns out that it was kind of accidental that it was actually doing offscreen rendering at all, I think I will have something to send you in a bit here which tweaks a couple of other things.

But it does look like it's going to be possible to get it to work there after all.

- Michael
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 From:  Michael Gibson
4737.139 In reply to 4737.137 
I'll also tune it up so that if your card doesn't support fbo it will turn that offscreen rendering mode to "backbuffer" by default.

But basically it was trying to use fbos because it thought it was rendering at one size and then going to later on display the final result in a different sized window than the rendering when that's not really what happens. Now that I've got that fixed up it doesn't worry about trying to use fbos or offscreen rendering at all which should simplify things.

- Michael
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 From:  Luis (LFUNG)
4737.140 In reply to 4737.139 
Hi Michael,

I cannot send you a pm. The system is blocking it with an opted out msg.

--Luis
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 From:  Michael Gibson
4737.141 In reply to 4737.140 
Hi Luis,

> I cannot send you a pm. The system is blocking it
> with an opted out msg.

Seems that my PM space was filled up, I've freed up some room can you please try again?

Thanks,
- Michael
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 From:  Luis (LFUNG)
4737.142 In reply to 4737.141 
no love still. pm not working. could be me. but i've logged out and logged back in a few times...
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 From:  Michael Gibson
4737.143 In reply to 4737.142 
Hi Luis, can you send me an e-mail at moi@moi3d.com instead?

Thanks,
- Michael
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 From:  SW03
4737.144 In reply to 4737.116 
Just wanted to confirm that besides the window-lags from time to time on resize – It runs smooth as a catweasel. Love it.

The load / save / file dialogs coud be integrated better, but hey – it works .. :D

10.6.8
2.4Ghz 2010 Mac Mini
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 From:  Michael Gibson
4737.145 In reply to 4737.144 
Hi SW03, thanks for testing it!

> The load / save / file dialogs coud be integrated
> better, but hey – it works .. :D

Yeah that's probably the single weirdest part right now - I do plan on overhauling these to use the native OSX file dialogs, and I'll also try to tune up the window sizing as well.

Of course in the grand scheme of things it's not so common to resize the window as it is to do stuff like rotate and pan the views, so it's good that the much more heavily used area of the regular screen redraw is working smoothly already.

- Michael
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 From:  nycL45
4737.146 
I'm a bit late to the party but, a Mac OS version, Michael?! This is amazing and it will be great for Mac users who did not want to bootcamp, etc. to Moi.

To me, Moi is sort of a professional paradox: with Moi it is possible to do serious work, in less time and have fun doing it.

Congrats, Michael.

Leonard
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 From:  Michael Gibson
4737.147 In reply to 4737.146 
Thanks Leonard, I'm glad that you've been having fun using MoI!

And yup, I've definitely heard from people who did not want to go through the hassle of setting up bootcamp or Parallels/VMWare (although quite a few people did do that too) so this new version should be helpful since it doesn't need any of that.

- Michael
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 From:  ed17 (ED17ES)
4737.148 
I attached what i described above with named objects for easier understanding, thanks for your support!
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 From:  BurrMan
4737.149 In reply to 4737.148 
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 From:  shane (SHANE_W)
4737.150 
Are you kidding me? This is amazing! Been using it a few day and seems to work perfectly. Thanks for the great work.

-Shane
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 From:  Michael Gibson
4737.151 In reply to 4737.150 
You're welcome Shane, I'm glad that it's working well for you!

I've been working on some updates to it and making some progress, I've nearly got the native OSX file open and save dialogs working properly and then I have just a few other things to fix up before releasing a new updated OSX beta.

- Michael
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 From:  shane (SHANE_W)
4737.152 In reply to 4737.151 
Thanks Michael, that is great news.

Is there a way to be notified of the new build or should I just check back here from time to time?

It really feels like a native app other than the OS X dialogs that you mentioned and a few other very minor things like the Windows hot keys for copy & paste and command +Q not working.

Very excited you were able to make this happen!

Thanks,

-Shane
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 From:  Michael Gibson
4737.153 In reply to 4737.152 
Hi Shane,

> Is there a way to be notified of the new build or should
> I just check back here from time to time?

I don't really have any method set up to get an e-mail notification for stuff like that, so just checking back here every once in a while is the best way to find out about it.


> It really feels like a native app other than the OS X dialogs that
> you mentioned and a few other very minor things like the Windows
> hot keys for copy & paste and command +Q not working.

Yup, copy & paste using the Cmd key and Cmd+Q are on my list to address as well.

- Michael
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