Mac OSX v3 prototype available now
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 From:  Michael Gibson
4737.1 
There's a new OSX version of the v3 beta now available from:
http://moi3d.com/osxbeta.htm

This requires OSX version 10.6 (Snow Leopard) or 10.7 (Lion). I haven't even tested it yet on 10.6 so I'm not even really sure it runs ok there yet or not. I'm pretty sure it will not run on 10.5 though (which is due to limits in Apple's newest development tools).

I have only tested this on my machine so I'm not even really sure that it works at all on anyone else's machine, but I figured that it would be good to release it and get it tested some!

There are still several things that I have left to do like getting the Mac file dialog instead of the retro Windows 95-ish one (just ignore that for the time being) and probably setting up some way from the MoI file menu to open up a second MoI window which at the moment there is no way to do.

But basically everything should be running. It could be possible that a few remaining things may need to be tweaked in order to run properly, let me know if you find any particular command or feature that does not seem to work at all.

I'm still not entirely sure if this overall approach is going to work even now, so please let me know if things are running ok or if you see a lot of problems.

Thanks,
- Michael
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
4737.2 
That is a big surprise!
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 From:  ycarry
4737.3 
Hi
Great! works perfectly here.
One thing (disturbing a Mac user) is the Quit with Close window (red button);
on Mac closing the window let the app. running/waiting and Quit must be in the menu bar too.

Some graphical glitches when resizing the window (Snow Leopard on MacBook)
Ill test more to find if bug when modeling (none yet)...

(:^D

Edit: and delete key is <- on Mac (no Suppr key on keybord) so need to use red X button
or fn+delete

EDITED: 22 Nov 2011 by YCARRY

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 From:  Michael Gibson
4737.4 In reply to 4737.3 
Hi ycarry, thanks for testing it!

Yes, I'm sure there will be several things that should be tweaked to be more mac-like. I may have some difficulty with some of them due to the way this is set up, but I will probably be able to address many of them.

But of primary concern right now is if it just functions ok or if it has any bad reliability problems. That's great to hear that it's running on Snow Leopard, I wasn't even sure if that part would work yet or not.

Please let me know how things go if you get a chance to use it for some longer modeling sessions.

- Michael
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 From:  amur (STEFAN)
4737.5 In reply to 4737.3 
WOW! Great news!

To bad i can't test it currently because i have to bring my iMac to repair, argh.

Best regards
Stefan
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 From:  Ralf-S
4737.6 
Hi Michael,

Here is my short test with:
Mac OS X V 10.6.8

20" iMac ( 1680 x 1050 )
2 GHz Intel Core Duo
2 GB RAM ( I cannot upgrade, 2 GB was the limit with the first iMac`s)
ATI Radeon X1600 128 MB
(This iMac was bought Jun. 2006, one of the first iMac`s, a grandpa :-)

Download & Installation = without problems
Licensing = without problems

First impression = Great!
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 From:  Daniele (BADANS)
4737.7 
This is a dream come true!!!
Testing right now, iMac i7 2.93 Ghz, 4G RAM - OSX 10.6.8

Just change the shortcut for Delete from "Delete" to "Backspace" and the first issue is solved.
Trying out the different commands, so far so good.
Thank you Michael, now I can throw away my old notebook, since MoI was the only program left that still needed Windows!

Daniele

"The darker the night, the closer the dawn."
(Buddhist Proverb)

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 From:  Martin (MARTIN3D)
4737.8 In reply to 4737.7 
WOW that was fast! Thanks a lot for MoI.app

I use OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard and my first impression after playing a few minutes with the prototype is very positive.
C: is the windows disk and Z: is my Mac disk which I can browse fine with the windows file interface.

I seem to miss a certain font though as you can see in the screen shots. The font for the keyboard shortcuts and the font for the lables "3D" "Top" "Front" "Right" is missing.

That's just a quick, first impression.
Thanks again.
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 From:  Jeff Hammond (JEFF_HAMMOND)
4737.9 
Great news!!

would love to beta test this but, you know, not too many mac users out there would actually have a v2 license.
:)

i'll be following the progress closely.
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 From:  Chyman
4737.10 In reply to 4737.3 
Hi Michael, this is wonderful news! Especially ycarry's tests with Snow Leopard on MacBook, which is the combination I have, sound very promising. As Jeff mentions, do I have to purchase a v2 license first in order to make a test? You not happen to have a trial of this.. I guess not.. well if the GFX is the same I am ready to jump!

Hello ycarry, may I ask you the favor to verify that your MacBook has the same graphics as mine? You can find the info in the System Profiler > Graphics/Display. That would be super kind!

Thanks a lot both of you!
Chyman
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 From:  ycarry
4737.11 
Hi Chyman,
CG is a GT330M
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
4737.12 
All images by Nikolas http://www.nicolasverdon.fr/



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 From:  Chyman
4737.13 In reply to 4737.11 
Thank you, ycarry, for looking that up. Then it is a different MacBook, mine has a Intel GMA X3100...
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 From:  Jeff Hammond (JEFF_HAMMOND)
4737.14 In reply to 4737.13 
@chyman.. i'm curious to see how(if) it would run on a 13" mbp or air..
those integrated graphics give all sorts of problems with sketchup and rhino osx..

fwiw, if i were beta_ing, it'd be on a MacPro 1,1 2.66xeon w/ 8800gt and a MacBookPro 6,2 15" 2.66 i7 w/ 330M
both running 10.7.2
i'm also testing rhino osx (for the past 2 years) and am a sketchup veteran :)
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 From:  WillBellJr
4737.15 
I'm not even a MAC user and I have to say WOW Michael!

I'm happy for you cause I know a lot of folks were asking for MoI to be native on the MAC platform - looks like you'll have a whole new set of users now - congrats!

-Will
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
4737.16 
Yes my friend Jeff is a Sketchup veterant! :D

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 From:  Jeff Hammond (JEFF_HAMMOND)
4737.17 In reply to 4737.16 
Hey! that looks just like me!
nice :D
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 From:  Luis (LFUNG)
4737.18 
Tried it on an my black macbook with Lion (OSX 10.7.2) but the views don't work. only get a big pixelated black ellipses on all of them. doesnt matter if I switch to single view either. :(

any suggestions?
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 From:  Jeff Hammond (JEFF_HAMMOND)
4737.19 In reply to 4737.18 
yeah, the blackbooks had intel integrated graphics only..
i figured that's what would happen on them.. not sure if the newer 13" mbp and airs will fair any better but i doubt it.
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
4737.20 
<not sure if the newer 13">

You are affraid of the size of the screen?
Moi has a tricky system of reduction of UI !

So like a phone screen :) here size 1/1

EDITED: 23 Nov 2011 by PILOU

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