MoI + Rhino - Pros/Cons?
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 From:  Michael Gibson
3989.8 In reply to 3989.7 
Hi Playdo,

> So can they can be interchanged and worked on at any stage?

Yup, the model data can be easily transferred back and forth at any time.


> Could you explain some of Rhino's advanced surfacing tools
> that you'd want to bring a MoI model over for?

One would probably be the MatchSrf command, which modifies a surface to be smooth to some other surface edge.

Also there are a variety of deformation tools in Rhino like FlowAlongSrf.


> I had a look through the MoI gallery here but if anyone
> has other links to images of complex surfaces made in
> MoI, it would be good to see.

The gallery is probably your best bet, there are 21 pages of stuff in there to look over.

- Michael
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 From:  eric (ERICCLOUGH)
3989.9 In reply to 3989.8 
It might be worth mentioning that copy and paste does not work from the
Rhino 5 beta to MoI though it works perfectly from Rhino 4. It does work from MoI to the Rhino 5 beta, though.
cheers,
eric
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 From:  Michael Gibson
3989.10 In reply to 3989.9 
Hi eric - does it work to copy/paste from the Rhino 5 beta back to Rhino 4 when both are open at the same time?

- Michael
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 From:  eric (ERICCLOUGH)
3989.11 In reply to 3989.10 
Hi Michael ...
No, it does not.
Rhino 4 will not open any Rhino 5 files although you can 'save' to Rhino 4 from Rhino 5.
So it follows that one could could copy and paste from MoI to R5 and then save to R4 and then open the file with MoI
if one had a special need to use something in Rhino 5 that is not available in the others.
cheers
eric
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 From:  Michael Gibson
3989.12 In reply to 3989.11 
Hi eric - if you cannot copy and paste from Rhino v5 into Rhino v4, that means that they have intentionally turned off the ability to put up clipboard information in V4 or lower 3DM format.

I don't know if that's a temporary thing for the beta or what, you'd need to ask McNeel for more information on that one.

But yeah if you cannot copy/paste from the Rhino v5 beta to Rhino v4, you won't be able to do it from Rhino v5 to Moi either.

- Michael
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 From:  gbing
3989.13 In reply to 3989.12 
Hi Michael and eric,
I'm using Rhino 5.0 WIP 90-day Eval 2010-12-14 (to test RhinoBIM) 64 bit and I have installed also Rhino 4 SR8 eval.
No problem in copy/paste from Rhino5 to Rhino4 or MOI v2 and no problem in copy/paste from MOI or Rhino4 to Rhino 5.
In Rhino5 there is at least a new entity called extrusion (used in RhinoBIM for steel beam members); extrusion is converted in polysurface in copy/paste from RH5 to RH4 and in solid in copy/paste from RH5 to MOI v2.

Giovanni

EDITED: 19 Jan 2011 by GBING

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 From:  eric (ERICCLOUGH)
3989.14 In reply to 3989.13 
Hi ..

That is really odd. Yesterday I could not copy/past from R5 into either R4 or MoI and I tried it a number of times.
This morning it is working just fine ... all directions.

I feel like an idiot ... so cancel everything I said about the problem copying files yesterday.

cheers,
eric
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 From:  eric (ERICCLOUGH)
3989.15 In reply to 3989.14 
Duh!
I discovered my errors of yesterday. I tested the copy/paste functions in R5 by placing a small box in an existing drawing and
then copy/pasting it. When I copy/pasted into MoI it came in way, way off screen and though I did zoom out to find it it just
did not appear to be there.
I tried it again this morning with a developed drawing with many layers. All of them were copied into MoI just fine. Of course I lost
things that MoI does not include such as text, line weights, and line styles. That was fully expected, of course.
I apologize for the confusion and am a little chagrined.
cheers,
eric
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 From:  Michael Gibson
3989.16 In reply to 3989.15 
No problem eric, and thanks Giovanni for posting your results.

So that's great that making clipboard data available in previous 3DM formats is still working in Rhino v5.

- Michael
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