Thank you both, very useful!

>>>Btw, I can't import a SAT file from Moi, it sais I have to pass the file through AutoCAD !!! Then I understood I have to check the solid and no 2d geometry and it was ok but there is NOTHING I can do with it... How can I make it a Revit mass?
Some help here please...

Perhaps some good news for a better compatibility between MoI and Autodesk products (?)

Autodesk acquires nPower SAT translator.
The nPower SAT translator will replace the original Autodesk® 3ds max® SAT translator as the standard SAT translation tool for Autodesk® 3ds max®. http://www.npowersoftware.com/AutodeskSAT.htm

Michael is MoI using the same SAT translator?

Hi neo,

> Michael is MoI using the same SAT translator?

Probably - as far as I know the nPower products use the HarmonyWare translators same as MoI. MoI uses the HarmonyWare translators for IGES, STEP, and SAT file I/O. The HarmonyWare translator libraries are packaged up specifically to coexist with the Solids++ kernel.

But I am not specifically familiar with the technical details or internals of the nPower products, you would need to ask the nPower / IntegrityWare guys to really find out for sure. (if they use HW libs for SAT in that particular product or not).


But also one other note - the message that you quoted asking about how to use the imported SAT data in Revit was not about a file incompatibility at all but just about what steps are needed within Revit to prepare any SAT import for use as one of their "mass" objects, rather than just a limited "symbol" type object. Just due to the way Revit's UI is set up you can't simply go directly to the import function, you have to create a new mass, _then_ import the data, and then it becomes the surface data for that mass. That's totally separate than file translation issues.

- Michael

>Probably - as far as I know the nPower products use the HarmonyWare translators same as MoI. MoI uses the HarmonyWare translators for IGES, STEP, and SAT file I/O. The HarmonyWare translator libraries are packaged up specifically to coexist with the Solids++ kernel.

But I am not specifically familiar with the technical details or internals of the nPower products, you would need to ask the nPower / IntegrityWare guys to really find out for sure. (if they use HW libs for SAT in that particular product or not).

Ill ask David Gill, just out of curiosity...(I always thought they were selling their own translators.) anyway I'm happy as long Autodesk does not acquire Solid++ :)

>But also one other note - the message that you quoted asking about how to use the imported SAT data in Revit was not about a file incompatibility at all but just about what steps are needed within Revit to prepare any SAT import for use as one of their "mass" objects, rather than just a limited "symbol" type object. Just due to the way Revit's UI is set up you can't simply go directly to the import function, you have to create a new mass, _then_ import the data, and then it becomes the surface data for that mass. That's totally separate than file translation issues.

I see... sorry about that :(

Hi Neo & Michael...

>I'm happy as long Autodesk does not acquire Solid++
Just in case autodesk acquire Solid++, what will happen to MoI, is there any bad effect ?

Thanks :)

Hi Anis,

> Just in case autodesk acquire Solid++, what will happen to
> MoI, is there any bad effect ?

Well, when a company is acquired its contracts are also acquired, so then I would have a contract with Autodesk for licensing Solids++ from them.

So it would not necessarily be any instant bad effect, but it is hard to imagine that it would be very good either because Autodesk is not really focused on that kind of business of licensing geometry libraries to other companies.

- Michael