My kid, 10 years old, who's only used to some game u.i. (rts games) never ask me how to navigate in MoI.

He can after 5 minutres moving objects, duplicate, and navigate without problem.
As every tools are visible in MoI, in fact no shortcut are needed at a learning stage, you only configure shortcuts when you
really want to speed up some modeling tasks.

I don't really understand the problem.

(as a comparaison, he was never able to do anything with Blender, ... I mean ... really nothing. I myself had to
read few docs/tutorial to more less understand the navigation :))

I believe that Brian have some difficulties to memorize shortcuts for "Scripts" as they are numerous and not easy to see what make something only to read beginning of the line !

But seems that is quiet easy to add just /* something*/ after the words "script:" like this

script:var gd = moi.geometryDatabase; gd.deselectAll(); var breps = gd.getObjects().getBreps(); for ( var i = 0; i < breps.length; ++i ) breps.item(i).getNakedEdges().setProperty( 'selected', true );

become

script:/* Show Open Faces*/var gd = moi.geometryDatabase; gd.deselectAll(); var breps = gd.getObjects().getBreps(); for ( var i = 0; i < breps.length; ++i ) breps.item(i).getNakedEdges().setProperty( 'selected', true );

And if you want more simple to read seems not so too difficult to make a little js prog ;)
Copy all the line beginning by "Script:" in the NoteBook
and save as "Something.js" and put it in a folder "scripts" inside the Moi prog!
(create the folder "scripts" if this one is not existing) ;)

Result will be on the Command column of the Option Shortcurts
Something.js
with the example above that will be for example
Show Open Faces.js
Not so a big deal :)

Here with a French result example ;)

Hooo sorry then, I see the problem a little bit better ;)

For sure scripts are a problem, it's somehow, "hidden functions that you have to map yourself to run them".
I can imagine it's quite hard to learn them all, or assign a shortcut for every extra scipts around.

I think it would be helpfull to have
- a script launcher function (F6 in modo), where a popup window open and let you select and execute a script from your HD ... handy for some scipts that are used once a month.
- some place should be found in the interface (that's not easy ^^) where all the extra command installed are listed, with their own button, so you don't have to remember any shortcut.

Should be quite low in priority list I suppose o)

Hi Brian & Pilou,

I like to put all the script inside "Script" folder.
Burr already create the video on how to set up this. I just not remember in which thread. Burr will come here and tell us :)

Hi Anis,

http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=2134.24

Is the vid your talking about. Just allows to save all the scripts michael makes with meaningful names and use them that way.

>>>>I think it would be helpfull to have
- a script launcher function (F6 in modo), where a popup window open and let you select and execute a script from your HD ... handy for some scipts that are used once a month.
- some place should be found in the interface (that's not easy ^^) where all the extra command installed are listed, with their own button, so you don't have to remember any shortcut.>>>>

Hi Paq,
I do this with the plug-in Gallery.



And then insert an Icon to use to launch it from the ui.



Of course, we are "Beta Testing" and this requires the ability to keep up with this with each new release of a software in testing! Once the software is released and set, I'm sure someone can make this a reality for those that wish it. As for the moment, we all like a better mesher and great fillets as you stated! :)

Hi Pilou,

> I believe that Brian have some difficulties to memorize shortcuts
> for "Scripts" as they are numerous and not easy to see what
> make something only to read beginning of the line !

Yes, I believe I've heard him mention this before.

Also another way to solve this particular problem is to just write a few notes for yourself in a text editor like notepad and then print it out to make your own reference guide...

That would solve the problem and would probably be less typing than all the posts on this on the forum so far! :)

But I don't see how this applies to "new users" really? Typically those custom scripts are for more advanced users who are trying to reduce the number of steps for some particular task that they are doing frequently on a heavy model. It's not typically something that applies to new or beginning users.

- Michael

Just a basic reply.

Are some of you suggesting that you can MEMORISE all the shortcuts for the various apps you use?

I think I better give this whole computer exercise away!

Is it Sunday today?

Brian

< you can MEMORISE
No I use just some little "Post it" ;)

I just scour the web and help files of the application I use to find out what the keyboard shortcuts are and then just type them into a word document and print them off for reference. If you end up using that application a lot pretty soon you'll remember them all off by heart anyway.

Hi Brian,

>>Are some of you suggesting that you can MEMORISE all the shortcuts for the various apps you use?

Yeah, all 3 of them, but only for the main functions I use most.
As for plugins I only load what I need, and there I assign a key related to the function eg. Gear = G, Distance Measure =Ctrl+D, Naked Edges = N etc. easy to remember :)

---------
~Danny~

Well, thankfully, some humans on this site after all!

I don't know of any of the apps I have, LW, XSI. Hexagon, Carrara,Bryce, Photoshop and----------( Maxwell, 3DS Max, Maya, Motion Builder etc,etc

that don't have an accesable, allready prepared, print out available of the apps short cuts--in that form I would love for MoI.

Ah well,
sorry again if I seem the odd one out
My 3 high level computer guru sons say they would NEVER search the likes of the MoI wikki to locate and work out a decent list of Shortcuts--guess I have brought them up in the wrong world?
(Too late to start again!)

Brian
ps One of the very major 3D apps require you to be connected to the web all the time through a long, complicated, installation process of your previously purchase app.. Am I peculiar in thinking that, from an international point of view, that that is, well, ignorantly stupid?

You can print this!

Heres a PDF!

Ok. Who guessed this was comming??? :)

Burr

Now I know you have found a supply of Coopers there in Horvayee!

Should I laugh or cry?

I think your floating a shy spinnaker!

Or a ---?(My mind is giggling but I must not post!)

The over 40C tempertures are continuing, and will for a few days--a new all time record heat wave for South Aussie. (The hottest capital city, in the driest State of the driest continent!)

Now I, at least, have an excuse for having a fried brain !

Brian

Laugh my friend, Laugh! You live in a desert.

Hi Brian,

Well I did what I could by setting up that wiki page for you.

You didn't need to search it out - I gave you the link directly to it in a reply here!

Here it is again if you need it: http://moi3d.com/wiki/Shortcut_Keys

It looks like Burr has provided you with several alternate printout documents, so hopefully that should solve your problem!

- Michael