Hmm, this works better - a sweep in 3 steps.







But it doesn't shell to well..







/Lars

Any other ideas of what to do to get a smooth surface?

Maybe Michael can give us a big bowl with soap-water, then we could just dip these kind of wireframes in it and get a soap-film...

/Lars

Hi Lars, probably your best bet for this is to use the "Patch" command in Rhino - it will kind of fit a single squishy surface through the curves that you pick.

It is not exactly the same as a true "minimal energy" surface like a soap bubble but it will probably get you the closest.

MoI does not have this particular tool yet, it probably will not be coming directly in MoI until MoI version 3.0 .

- Michael

Thank you Michael,

you actually had a bucket of soap-water to throw in!
Worked great, took my curves from MoI, used the Patch command in Rhino, and the rest was MoI.

/Lars

It's a cool result Lars!

- Michael

Seems you can make that only inside Moi ;)
hum hum not so evident I have some seams and my circle is not enough big :D

Thank you Pilou!

It works great to divide the surface in 8 parts and sweep them separately. Didn't even think of that, I'm always afraid that there will be kinks between individual surfaces where they meet. But the way you've dividend it there's no risk for that. It would take some effort to adjust the curves so that the parts will meet in a nice way when you copy the whole thing.

Thanks again for showing me!

/Lars

what's how Erwin Hauer is doing it...

Hi Lars,

I would build that interlinking surface slightly differently.

This is just a very quick example (took about 3 minutes to build)

Create a curve which I then rotated(copied) 90 degrees and mirrored.



One rail sweep to create surface. Then booleaned out 4 circles.



Shelled the surface.



Then made arrays.

Yannada - thanks for the link, I will sure check it out. Was inspired by Rinus Roelofs - http://www.rinusroelofs.nl/pr-c-holes/pr-c-holes-00.html

Manz - another possibility that I would've never thought of. I'll give it a try.

/Lars

This was a nice experiment, I'll go on to try out the different suggestions you've given me, just a quick sketch of another one, not so smooth yet...

/Lars

@Manz: Damned! That is "the solution" the more easy ! Bravo ! :D
I am so dumb to not have though to that :)

Very cool links!

I decided to build that surface from a network (egg carton)



Create the surface.



boolean the holes, then copy and postion.



Add shell




There are some nice shapes shown on the link, I will have to play more.

Really nice, but now you have to relate how you go about in creating an egg carton surface.

/Lars

Create a curve, here I have used the "through points" curve to create a wavy curve using snaps.



Use that curve and create the square boundary, then select all 4 curve and select "network".



I have attached the curves which may better explain.

Maybe this link can interest you ;)
http://www.materialsystems.org/?page_id=161
Some amazing things anywhere in this site!

Hi Pilou,

I will have to make time to take a longer look at those images,.. some strange shapes indeed.

Thanks for the link.

Hi Lars,

I had a play with building the 3 surfaces interlocking. It did not come out exactly as planned, but was OK.

Hi Manz,

nice one. It's a nice interwoven structure and I plan to experiment more with it too.

Tell me, the red color... remember seeing a screenshot from Michael some time ago where he showed an idea for that, but is it actually implemented in the latest beta? How does it work?

I'm trying to learn a bit in the parametric plugin for Rhino called Grasshopper. So after all the tips and ideas from you, Pilou and Yannada I figured I had enough understanding of this surface to try it out in Grasshopper. So now I can change at least a few parameters with sliders in Grasshopper.

/Lars

>>Tell me, the red color... remember seeing a screenshot from Michael some time ago where he showed an idea for that,
>>but is it actually implemented in the latest beta?

I have not seen anything in the latest beta for changing colors of an object, I would think that will be included when the Groups are added.

On the screengrab, I just have (on that setup) the surface selected color set to red in the MoI ini file. The entry I changed was "SurfaceSelectedColor=" and made it 255.0.0