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 From:  Anis
2323.24 In reply to 2323.22 
Hi Michael....

> Maybe a couple of days.
I think you will release the next beta at Jan 21, 2009.
Base on the history, you like to release at 21 :)
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 From:  Michael Gibson
2323.25 In reply to 2323.24 
Hi Anis, yes it is funny how it has been working out to be the 21st several times now! :)

This time I think probably before that though.

- Michael
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 From:  jbshorty
2323.26 
i just bought a dual-quad Xeon about 5 months ago. So i'll stick with it for at least a few years. I think my next move is to build a stripped down render slave unit...

jonah
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 From:  Grendel
2323.27 In reply to 2323.26 
Thats great JB, I remember when I used to wait for several hours for a render to come out of the oven. ;P)

I've looked at getting a renderboxx(four quad xeon rack). The price is around $6k which is roughly the same as getting two more workstations but the space factor is a lot smaller. Plus your not using up as many resources.
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 From:  jbshorty
2323.28 In reply to 2323.27 
When i spoke to Boxx about the Renderboxx ("Pizzabox" as they call it), they told me a price of around $2500. There is no GPU or anything, just chews the data and returns it (excrements it?) back to the master unit... So one of must be wrong about the price... Hopefully it's you! :P
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 From:  Grendel
2323.29 In reply to 2323.28 
I hope it is me because I'll have one sooner than I thought....must check again.

I am also holding on to a hope that 3d soft companies will be able to harness the CUDA processors that nvidia introduced. 240 processors on a unit, how sweet would that be to have stuffed into an excrement box.

EDITED: 16 Jan 2009 by GRENDEL

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 From:  jbshorty
2323.30 In reply to 2323.29 
Yeah CUDA is pretty crazy. What they don't tell you is you need a cooling unit (the CULA) which is the size of a small condo! :P
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 From:  BurrMan
2323.31 In reply to 2323.30 
Heat factor. What drives your speed! Imagine your PC powering your refrigerator!???
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 From:  Michael Gibson
2323.32 In reply to 2323.29 
Hi Grendel,

> I am also holding on to a hope that 3d soft companies will
> be able to harness the CUDA processors that nvidia introduced.

Some certainly will! But it is not really a great fit with every kind of software problem. Yes you've got 240 processing units in there, but each one of them is not as powerful as a regular main CPU...

It tends to be something that works well for speeding up things where you have a million pretty simple calculations that you want to get done. Rendering can often fit into this category well, and some things like particle or voxel processing is a good fit too.

But if the problem at hand does not easily split up into a million simple sub-tasks then it doesn't really fit into that area.

- Michael
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 From:  Grendel
2323.33 In reply to 2323.32 
The rendering is what I am hoping will fit.
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 From:  Michael Gibson
2323.34 In reply to 2323.33 
Hi Grendel, have you tried nVidia Gelato yet? I think it is the main existing renderer that has been tuned to take advantage of this kind of stuff so far.

- Michael
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 From:  YANNADA
2323.35 In reply to 2323.34 
I think Gelato is dead or going to be. Nvidia bought MentalImages (Mentalray) so I think all their focus going on that...
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 From:  Grendel
2323.36 In reply to 2323.34 
Michael- not yet, never seemed to get around to messing with it but I've seen good things from others who have.
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