Hi Marc, thanks for the feedback re: Xara.

I actually did spend some time looking at Xara about properties, although I was not aware of that name gallery part which is pretty cool.

It was after looking through Xara some that I was starting to notice a pattern of "named style" type batched properties (in Xara I think this a "named color") being kind of grafted on to various programs in addition to individual property editing more directly on an object.

I think historically editing individual properties directly on an object came first, and then later on "named styles" get added to try and make it easier to update a batch of objects just by editing one style template.

That kind of convinced me to try and emphasize the "named style" or "property template" type approach more as the main way to do things...

And yes - enabling a kind of "select by style" mechanism allows styling to be used as another kind of batching or organizing concept. It will be a kind of parallel organization system in a certain sense to the grouping mechanism.

In fact, I was thinking that it may be a good idea to let you choose what is exported as a "layer" to other formats - whether it should be the grouping structure, or whether it should be by visual style...

The way it is turning out for MoI I think is the "grouping" is a more structural and hierarchical thing and will be more focused on operating on a batch of objects for hiding and showing things.

Then styling is for visual appearance.

- Michael

Michael, Steve,

I just drag the panels bit out onto the other screen leaving the viewports on the left and the panels on right screen. I like to still see some of the desktop and have icons and shortcuts arranged so they aren't covered.

I don't remember this happening until I started locking my PC. Screen saver didn't change anything. So, yes, must be something with my setup. I must have a look at the NVIDIA controls to see if anything is set for this.

Cheers.

Hi Tony - nVidia has a kind of multi-monitor helper app called nView which is probably running on your machine.

I'm pretty sure that is the thing moving MoI's window around.

On this nView feature page here
http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_8400.html :



Probably in your system tray there may be a little icon which says "Nview" when you move over it, you can probably click, double-click, or right-click on that to get at some options.

- Michael

Well I've been through all my nvidia settings and nothing changes the behaviour. I've had nview on and off. I found the setting:

>> Enable/disable window from spanning across displays

but this just stops windows from going onto the second monitor if off or allows them to be dragged if on. I have no problem dragging the window to the second screen.

My only problem comes if I lock the computer - either with 'Windows Key + L' or when the screensaver kicks in.

Screensaver with no lock/password keeps the window where it should be, partially over onto the second screen. On the other hand, panels/palletes from Photoshop, Fireworks and Modo stay where they should be.

So I'm stumped. It's like the system treats a locked system as different from an unlocked one and wants to put the windows back on the monitor they were opened on. Very strange but I suspect is a quirk of my system. Perhaps an update to the drivers will help - but I'll leave that for another day :-)

Thanks for all the suggestions folks.