Skinning my Boat?
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 From:  Brian (BWTR)
1264.9 In reply to 1264.8 
Had to get out of bed at 3am this morning and start a rework, from scratch. Here is the state of play at noon today.
Not a single, jamb or crash despite all my "wrong" moves. Amazing!

EDITED: 30 Dec 2008 by BWTR

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 From:  Michael Gibson
1264.10 In reply to 1264.9 
Hi Brian, it's coming together great!

It seems to be matching the shape of your plan drawings quite well.


> Not a single, jamb or crash despite all my "wrong" moves. Amazing!

Fantastic!

- Michael
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 From:  Brian (BWTR)
1264.11 In reply to 1264.10 
Have a problem though.
How do I skin/extrude this shape?
Everything similar has worked fine before!

EDITED: 30 Dec 2008 by BWTR

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 From:  Michael Gibson
1264.12 In reply to 1264.11 
Hi Brian - that shape has a kind of twisted frame, it is not a flat planar shape, so that's why it is a little different for extruding.

MoI will pick an extrusion direction of straight up in z in this instance (when the input curves are not planar), which in this case doesn't give you a good result. Nothing is actually generated because it would be all messed up. But you can click the "Set dir" button inside of Extrude and then click 2 points to give it an extrusion direction going in the x-axis direction, then that will punch out an extrude, but only the side parts of the extrude will be created, it won't be capped off automatically because that capping only happens with planar shapes.

To build the cap in this case, you can use Edit/Separate to break the curve into pieces. There are 2 pieces on one side, join those together so you have 4 curves, and then with 4 curves around in a ring like this, you can use Construct/Network to surface it. You can also use sweep with 2 profiles and the other 2 as rails.

Then you can make a copy of that cap on the other end of the extrude and use Edit/Join to join them together into a solid if that's what you wanted to make there.

I think I might be able to tune up the automatic extrude direction in the future, for this case of a non-planar curve. Instead of choosing the world z axis direction in this case it seems like it would be better to try and look at the shape and see if it is close to planar in some direction and then use the world axis direction that is closest to that direction instead of always z. But I won't be able to put that in for the v1 release though.

- Michael
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 From:  Brian (BWTR)
1264.13 In reply to 1264.12 
Tyhanks Michael.
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 From:  Brian (BWTR)
1264.14 In reply to 1264.13 
I think I had a pretty good day!
Thanks Michael.

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 From:  Michael Gibson
1264.15 In reply to 1264.14 
It's really coming to life!

Are you getting more comfortable with using MoI after spending time on this project?

- Michael
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
1264.16 
added to the Special Thread Gallery :)
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 From:  Brian (BWTR)
1264.17 In reply to 1264.15 
Michael---YES!
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 From:  Mark Brown (MABROWN)
1264.18 In reply to 1264.17 
Great work. What a cool little boat. I wouldn't mind one of those myself.

Mark
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 From:  Brian (BWTR)
1264.19 In reply to 1264.18 
Mark.
It's the H28 design by Hereschoff who designed many of the early Americas Cup boats and many other famous ones.
Some 6 where built in backyards here in South Australian in the 1940s, and they are still alive and well. Even more in Western Australia I believe.
I spent many happy years sailing in one.
Brian
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 From:  Mark Brown (MABROWN)
1264.20 In reply to 1264.19 
Hi Brian,

It is a small world, I'm in Adelaide myself. Sadly I can't sail but would love a yacht of my own one day. It's nice to dream...

Are you going to rig your model?

Mark
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 From:  Brian (BWTR)
1264.21 In reply to 1264.20 
Mark.
PM me please. Someone in Adelaide with a similar connection---WOW!
That you can not sail--realy is sad! (I am 76 so I have had a lot of "experiences")
You may like to also visit the website my 50 year old(! ) son runs--
www.windsurfing.org
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 From:  Brian (BWTR)
1264.22 In reply to 1264.20 
Love to have direct contact if you care to PM me.
I am 76 and have had a great life sailing.
My son (54!) runs the Aussie Windsurfer site,
www.windsurfing.org
Brian
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 From:  Michael Gibson
1264.24 In reply to 1264.22 
One way to send a private message now is to click on someone's name which will open up their profile, and if they have included their e-mail address there will be a "Send e-mail" link there that you can use to send them an e-mail.

Write your own e-mail address inside the message somewhere for a reply, because I think it will get sent from the forum software with a generic moi@moi3d.com reply address by default.

- Michael
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 From:  Brian (BWTR)
1264.25 In reply to 1264.20 
Hi Mark.
Would you be interested in making direct contact by PMing me?"
I am 76 and only found out the computer switch about 5 years ago!
Carrara, Poser, Photoshop, 3D Brush,Hexagon---and etc!
My 54 year old son runs the site, www.windsurfing.org if of interest.
Brian

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 From:  Mark Brown (MABROWN)
1264.26 In reply to 1264.25 
Hi Brian,

Just sent you an email using Michael's instructions.

All the best,

Mark
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 From:  Brian (BWTR)
1264.27 In reply to 1264.20 
Just a bit more work today.
Very pleased at this last effort on doing the cockpit coamings.
Brian

EDITED: 30 Dec 2008 by BWTR

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 From:  Mark Brown (MABROWN)
1264.28 In reply to 1264.27 
Brian, that worked out great.

Mark

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