hi zooen, ha easy to run out of space here...you could also link to google drive or some other file service
so you don;t use up your MOI3D forum quota so quickly.

Your manual looks pretty comprehensive, I will certainly be interested to take a further look.

In terms of 'pdf squashing" or file sizes in general...
As there is lots of images in there and 150 pages --
Likely 96dpi / 150dpi is all you need for screen viewing.

I'm indicating, maybe you can also try to reprint it in something like bullzip pdf and set the output resolution there..
i did a quick test and got the file size down to about 4.6mb...BUT for squashing file sizes id likely run the screenshots
though a batch converter like irfanview first if you have the patience.

BULLZIP PRINT OUTPUT SETTINGS:



https://www.bullzip.com/products/pdf/download.php

IRFANVIEW IMAGE BATCH CONVERT TOOLS:
https://www.irfanview.com/
It looks confusing, but its v. easy:



For example you could run the entire screenshots folder through irfan view quickly...
Just the native images (all 347 of them) look like being 5.76MB.

Hi Zooen,

re:
> The file is 8.268 MB!???
> -
> Free Space: 17.1 MB

In addition to the space limit for the forum software, the web server also has a limit for the maximum size allowed for a single upload file.

I don't remember offhand what the limit is but I guess that is over it.

If you have a pretty large file like that which you want to share out to a bunch of people if you can send it to me (you may need to use a file sharing service because that's a very large file for e-mail also) I can upload it to the webserver directly which will then not count against the forum attachment limit.

Thanks,
- Michael

Hi Zooen,

re:
> When version 5 of MoI3D becomes available, it would be nice and helpful to have an
> easy-to-use document titled “Introduction to MoI.”
> <...>

There is already an "Introduction to MOI" section of the help file just like you describe, here is the v4 version:
https://moi3d.com/4.0/docs/moi_introduction.htm

- Michael

Hi Michael, Zooen's one looks v much like this one but with hyperlinks in more places..which i guess is
good for navigating around...

https://moi3d.com/4.0/docs/moi_help.pdf

Maybe the V5 one can be online/html as well and we can tag it with anchors etc....

@Stefano - yeah there are 2 versions of the help file, the main one is HTML which has links in it:
https://moi3d.com/4.0/docs/moi_help.htm

The main intent of the PDF version is for making a printout so that's why no links in it.

Use the HTML one if you want links.

- Michael

I'm removing the English document; the links aren't working. Sorry.

hi michael sometimes its like "who reads the manual"

On further exploration...I think the native one from inside moi is maybe the best of all,
it certainly looks the most interactive one, loads of hyperlinks on it, cant believe i never saw it this way....

maybe a lot of people also miss this excellent 'interactive help' built into moi

e.g.
you pick a tool like "box" then click the blue help icon



and you will get local context sensitive help...with a url like:

file:///C:/Program%20Files/MoI%205.0%20beta%20Apr-27-2026/docs/moi_command_reference.htm#box

EDIT:
@Michael, just for observation and not wanting to be padantic, but for V5 or future update could you please consider
to edit this introductory 'help' part text here @ #5 - https://moi3d.com/4.0/docs/moi_introduction.htm#commands

The current text is:
5. Options / Help. The little arrow button next to the Help button controls whether
MoI displays as full screen or not, covering up the Windows taskbar (Windows version only). The Browser button will show or hide the Scene browser panel which lets you work with a list of different kinds of object categories.

Might want to read first:
Help opens the manual on the index page, but if you select a tool first it will be context sensitive ( takes you to information on that command/tool/feature).
Options....[does as written]..

even here its not telling me about help being so context-helpful...
/moi_command_reference.htm#help
"Launches the help file. When moving over the help button, you can use the arrow that appears above it to open the About dialog to show version information."

Hi Zooen,

re:
> In addition, there are navigation links that allow you to quickly access all
> the reference commands, among other things.

Links are intentionally omitted in the PDF version because the purpose of the PDF version is for making a printout.

The main HTML version of the introduction section of the help file has links:
https://moi3d.com/4.0/docs/moi_introduction.htm

- Michael

Hi Michael
Yes, you're right. And thank you, Stefano, for the information

Hi Zooen, im interested in reading some of your own sections that you mentioned as im self taught in #cad#
whereas i bet you also have new angles and approaches on things as well.

I think a future learning resource would be a few (new) videos by the experts, on the (new) features
of V5. I know i know there is stuff on youtube, but its pretty dispersive, and sometimes I do not believe
all being taught is "the way" or "the only way"...maybe we need an index here somewhere...
should have the MOI3D pros vote them first maybe. Thats me excluded then ;o)

I particularly liked this guy cadence and approach, wish he'd have done a few more:
MoI Help Videos Playlist


The fault of many of the videos is people showing you howto use a tool or how fast they are
but not showing what tool is used, or "pressed"...