MOI V5.0 Beta - Linux (pop os cosmic)) - Meshing Multi-Thread test (works pretty good !)

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 From:  PaQ
11902.1 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTScQ7W39yc

I'm not sure if something has changed in the mesher, but it's the first time I get full speed export on Linux. (Is the API opengl resolved the thread bottleneck ?)
16M tris generated in less than 5sec.

Pop OS cosmic - MoI installed using steam - proton experimental

Using opengl option, I can't see any UI glitches when modeling. Only trouble was the format selection in the export file window. (I had to use the arrow key to select the format) ... I'm pretty sure it's an OS problem (cosmic is still under beta).

Overall this finally seems like the linux desktop year (at least for me :O))

EDITED: 12 Jan by PAQ

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 From:  mjs (MSHIDELER)
11902.2 In reply to 11902.1 
I almost cannot believe the coincidental timing here. It is like you read my mind.

I am literally about to install PoPOS! on an older workstation and start testing things out on it. I was hoping that MoI would be one of the things that runs on it, though I never thought about installing through steam / proton path. I was going to try out Bottles and then Wine. I just assumed the steam / proton path was more about gaming.

Thanks for putting this out there!

(hands PaQ a gold star)
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 From:  PaQ
11902.3 
Hello, from my understanding proton is wine + tons of enhancement made by valve (mostly GPU related stuff).
At this point Im not really sure if it's proton that allows better mesh export perf, or MoI new API OpenCl option ... maybe the classic wine procedure is working fine too.

I had a good bunch of minor annoying thing in pop cosmic yesterday tho, like non responding menu's or apps, and some more annoying one like complete system freeze watching a netflix ... I also have a bunch of uncommon hardware like an Arturia audio interface. Everything is working, but they might be source of additional glitches.

So yes it's still a beta, actually probably closest to an alpha ... that said I really like what they are doing, when it works it's a really snappy environment, ultra readable, with enough customization without going in the KDE rabbit hole. The debian base is also perfect for Houdini (never had trouble installing that one on deb distro's).
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 From:  777RAVEN777
11902.4 In reply to 11902.3 
Wow - so there ARE some Linux users here :)
I've just moved one of my machines to Zorin 18 to see if Moi will work. It installed fine & opens ok using Wine except i haven't been able to get it to recognize the .ini (& consequently all my prefs are back to default) - I can't even get it to open from the Default Template file which has all my Styles loaded. (browsing to find it from the Options dialogue yeilds no results as it's a file that's invisible to Linux)

I haven't yet tried loading my Shortcuts.

I'm literally a day old in Linux & have much to learn......
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 From:  777RAVEN777
11902.5 In reply to 11902.2 
Hi mjs - how did you get on running Moi on Pop? Were you planning to import all your old settings/shortcuts/scripts etc? I think I've settled on Pop Cosmic as a final OS for my work laptop as its format seems the most intuative (so far!) but I'd be keen to hear other users' experience setting up Moi in Linux
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 From:  PaQ
11902.6 
Hello !

Yes I could have my custom preference working using steam, but there are a bunch of annoying stuff still :

1) drop down menu from separate tab (like when exporting a model) appears offset (sometimes on my other monitor ...) and can't be clickable. I have the same behaviour with other software like FLStudio using steam. I'm pretty sure it's not related to the OS, but maybe wayland.

2) I can't find a way to list Linux drive location outside the environment set by wine/steam

But we are a little bit in the "deaf leading.the blind" situation as I don't have much experience either.

However I still confirm Pop Cosmic is not ready for daily drive, at least not for my workstation (dual monitor + Nvidia RTX + AMD Threadripper), they are still too many crash/freeze/UI glitches.
They are update every day or so, that probably fix a lots of issue while breaking other stuff ... I do love that desktop, so I will give it an other try in a few months. (once it's no more in beta state).
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 From:  mjs (MSHIDELER)
11902.7 In reply to 11902.5 
Sadly I gave up on PopOS.

I spent way too long trying to get chrome remote desktop working and it never would which is how I break into my machines at home and get things done on my low-end 17" screen chromebook when I am out and about.

I really wanted PopOS to work as that was also going to be what I put on my wife's machine. With remoteDT not working on Pop, for me anyhow, I wasn't going to chance it for her either.

I am now working on ZorinOS to see what all if I can get chrome's remote DT working on it without issues. We are a Windows hating house :-)

My last move will be to use ChromeFlex in development mode so I can run linux. Already have experience with that and used it quite a bit so it will be nothing new but never tested MoI on the linux layer within ChromeOS / Flex.

Light a candle for me with Zorin. I have a few machines that I really want to get out of the Microsoft world.
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 From:  mjs (MSHIDELER)
11902.8 In reply to 11902.6 
"I still confirm Pop Cosmic is not ready for daily drive, at least not for my workstation"

My experience too.

Some apps weren't even in the App store. I installed Zorin (about 10 minutes ago) and the app that wasn't in PoP that should have been was at the top of the list on Zorin.

I couldn't even get Chrome browser to work on PoP installing it right from the app store (I was want to try using that browser thinking it might help remote DT connection work).

Steam also wasn't showing in the store so that made the wife say 'hell no' to PoP.

Is seems like from when I played with it a few years ago, that they have made it worse.
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 From:  PaQ
11902.9 In reply to 11902.8 
Well for me steam was there. but with a weird icon ... for remote I need to be able to use parsec, haven't try that one yet either :S

Would be great if all those guy works together to get one working OS for everyone ... if pop fail to deliver I suppose my next choice would be simply Ubuntu, or Fedora.
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 From:  mjs (MSHIDELER)
11902.10 In reply to 11902.9 
I agree with Ubuntu or Fedora as well. Mint was also nice but me being lazier about OS babysitting as I....not age but mature, prefer the easiest interface possible.

Well that and I need to master the one that I will put my wife on so I can give better tech support :-)

But, so far, Zorin is hitting it out of the park. About an hour into testing different software and all is good so far.

In a few days I will get to MoI and test that one out.
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 From:  777RAVEN777
11902.11 
Yeah - I really like the UI of PopOS but it looks like I may have to settle on ZorinOS for my workhorse and maybe PuppyOS for my lighter machine (I have a laptop at my workbench playing YT as I work ;) ) and Mint XFCE seems a little glitchy. I'm in no way adept enough with the Terminal to wade my way through Arch or FreeBSD & need something that'll work straight off without clogging up my system - or spying on me.....

The beauty of Linux is that its use and development is so wide open that no-one really seems to own it; imagine if it were all condensed down to a single (saleable) cooperation - we all know who'd buy it up in a flash! ;)

EDITED: 22 Jan by 777RAVEN777

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