Right, right. What I'm asking is how the programming handles that bit. Is there a specific file that contains the expiration date and relevant code? And if that's the case, can the files be modified?

Just curious.

(I'd also like to apologize if I seem like I'm not making sense. I struggle with phrasing my queries in a clear manner, as a neurodivergent individual.)

(side note: thanks for adding SVG import/export. I use MoI as part of my workflow for vector graphics and 3D animation, in addition to CAD. Adding SVG import/export makes it much easier, especially since I don't have to worry about any loss of data - and thus, potential loss of detail - when using intermediary formats like PDF like I used to.)

Hi Spartan,

re:
> What I'm asking is how the programming handles that bit. Is there a specific file that contains the expiration date and relevant code?

Yes, it's part of the code in the main program module file moi_lib.dll .


> And if that's the case, can the files be modified?

Yes, it's possible to do that, it's called "cracking":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_cracking

But usually it's done by people who are distributing pirated versions of the software.

- Michael

Gotcha.

Admittedly, I had entertained the idea of cracking - though:

A.) I'd put the kibosh on the idea after thinking it through, and:
B.) it woulda been for personal use anyway had I cracked it,

so there's that.

That said, my line of thinking often goes toward "can it be done" more than "should it be done" and "what are the repercussions thereof" - hence my asking in the first place.

Further question: is there (at minimum) one more beta build after this, or is V5's public release the next release?

(also, will V5 be the same price as V4 when it releases?)

Hi Spartan,

re:
> Further question: is there (at minimum) one more beta build after this, or
> is V5's public release the next release?

There will be at least one more beta.


> (also, will V5 be the same price as V4 when it releases?)

Yes.

Thanks,
- Michael

Right. Thanks. Just wanted to be sure.

Hi all,

It’s been a while since I last posted here—probably around 2012 or 2013.
I’m wondering: is there a non-commercial (NFS) version of MoI3D available?
€300 feels a bit steep for occasional hobby use.

Hi Rich, there is an EDU discount version available for students or teachers. Contact me at moi@moi3d.com for ordering that version, it's available from different resellers depending on where you are located.

There isn't any hobbyist discount version, sorry.

Thanks, - Michael

Thanks, I’ll contact you.

Regards,

Funny enough, I still have an EDU key.

Tom Meeks (who's made a few tutorials for MoI, and who I've personally worked with) was able to secure some for the Youthquest Foundation - and I was among the lucky folks who got to work with him. Even after his organization merged with the school I attended, PHILLIPS Programs (private school for special needs kids like me), and even after graduating three years ago, I still have the EDU V4 key I was provided... though I'm likely gonna buy the standard key, since I'm not in school any more, and thus, using the EDU key would be quite imprudent.

Hi Spartan, yes Tom Meeks has done a great job teaching kids how to build interesting things using MOI.

re:
> and thus, using the EDU key would be quite imprudent.

Actually it isn't a problem - you can use your EDU license key for any kind of work, it is not restricted.

- Michael

Fair enough.

In any case, I'm looking forward to the next release.

Hi,
I use V4 after having upgraded from V3. As such, I don't have a V4 license; only a v3. Is there any way that I can access the V5 beta or would I need to purchase a new license for V4?
Thanks!

Hi Rio, you can use the v5 beta with any version 4 license including a v4 upgrade license.

You can put in your v4 upgrade license which starts with VER4UPG into the license key field at https://moi3d.com/beta.htm .

If you are having a problem with your v4 upgrade license not working there please send it to me at moi@moi3d.com .

- Michael

Hi all,
I decided to try MOI v5 and I migrated my settings by copy appdata and ui folders from v4 to C:\Program Files\MoI 5.0 beta Feb-8-2025.

Most of my settings are there, along with scripts and so on, but I cannot change the axes color as seen on the picture.
No matter the color I chose, axes stay the same (grey).

I can change other settings, like UI size.

Can you please advise?
Thanks

Hi Mr. Yuri, in v5 the Grid options has an additional setting:





If you copied the v4 UI folder over to the v5 install you'll be missing all the UI changes from v5.

If you have made your own changes in files in the v4 \ui folder, you'll need to merge those changes into the v5 UI instead of just copying the v4 file into v5.

I can help you do that if you .zip up your v4 UI folder and attach it here.

- Michael

Hi Michael.

Thanks for offer.

I also noticed that MoI5 doesn't remember my recent files.

When I start after closing and click "File" I don't see my recent files.
Also meshing options (resolution of STL exports) is not remembered.
V4 remembered those.

Looks like "something" is read only.

Juraj

Hi Juraj,

re:
> I also noticed that MoI5 doesn't remember my recent files.

That most likely means that the moi.ini file is read-only.

You can see the location of the moi.ini file by going to Options > General and push the "Edit .ini file" button.

That will show a dialog window with the path to the moi.ini file here:



Can you do that in both v4 and v5 and show me what it says?

- Michael

Hi Juraj, thanks for sending your v4 ui folder.

You don't have any modified files there from the default v4 install, so you don't need anything to be updated there.

Do a new install of v5 and just leave v5's ui folder alone, do not copy the v4 ui folder into the v5 install.

Then your Options > Grid should show the "From theme" or "Custom" options, set it to "Custom".

- Michael

Hi Michael,

actually, the read-only attribute was the first I tried (sorry not to mention at first) and that is not the blocker.

I restored original MOIv5 program files folder, because Ihad backup :)
so it looks good and moi is remembering files and settings.

However, I had some custom scripts, commands and settings.
Some of them were .ini file modifications guys here (and you) in forum advised me over the years.

Can you please advise on how to transfer those to v5 and not to cause trouble?

Regards,
Juraj