For anyone who's had their eye on Groboto or Mesh Fusion from Modo because
of their Boolean functions and blending feature.

An SDF modeler like MagicaCSG can do more or less the same thing.

Substance 3D Modeler is also a good SDF modeler with a good feature set.
There's a Steam version without a subscription, (ca 150.- euro)
with this Version you can model like in a desktop app, but also with VR headset
in VR.

I recommend to take a look at Youtube, there are a few videos
about how to model in Substance Modeler and in MagicaCSG.

Hi Matadem,

re:
> What would be the difference if I import already subdivided? other than it takes longer to import?

It would make much more complex surfaces which will be extremely heavy in control points.

Everything that you then try to do with the object will tend to be slower.

- Michael

Thanks for the info on MagicCSG and Adobe Substance 3D.

MagicCSG looks like it's still not finished and I am uncertain of what the cost will be.

As far as Substance 3D, I already give them enough money for use of Photoshop and Lightroom.
And I do not own or wish to purchase a VR headset just to use this Substance 3D.

I wish someone would create a Mesh Fusion like addon for MOI3D, Blender or 3D Coat.

I did download Modo 17.1 since it was released for free with a 10 year license but I find it's UI very confusing. Even move confusing then Blender when i fist started out learning Blender.

MOI3D has the best UI of any 3D app I've ever used, including Plasticity. My only issue with MOI3D is the shortage of good and easy to follow tutorials which is not the case with Blender or 3DCoat.

Cheers

Ken

Thanks Michael, I guess I will not be uploading anymore images then. As I really hate to delete past images I've uploaded.

It kind of annoys me whenever I do a search for a topic or "how to" on any forum and I find a thread that was posted a few years ago and the reference images are no longer available despite the topic still being relevant.

This is the first time I have exceeded any limit of the many forums I post to, including photography, automotive, 3d modeling and 2d digital art.

Cheers

Ken

MagicaCSG is only 5 $
Download the current Beta version in Patreon site
And if you abort your patreon registering you will keep your version downloaded!

So more you wait for download Beta better will be your version!
Who is yet very capable! ;)

Else you have the free Demo version for test it! ;)
itself sufficient for some funny things!
https://ephtracy.github.io/index.html?page=magicacsg

Magicacsg free + Vizcom free

@Kenmo

Substance Modeler will work like a Desktop App
if you like to work in Desktop mode no VR Headset
is needed. But if like to model via VR Headset you
can do that, with the same App so its 150.- euro
one time fee (on steam) for both options together.

MacigaCSG is a bit different in its modeling philosophy
then Substance Modeler, SM offers a few more
Export and import Options.

By the way: If you cancel your Patreon support for MagicaCSG,
you can continue working with the last version you downloaded.
You can reactivate your Patreon support again at any time.

Metin Seven is a great Artist with MagicaCSG
do a google picture search or youtube.

As i mentioned in a Previous post in this Thread
there is a big Thread in Blender Artist Forum about
more less any possible SDF-Modeling option out there.

Here the Link
https://blenderartists.org/t/the-big-sdf-thread/1293075

Womp 3D is an online SDF Modeler, there is a free Version
where only a Account is needed. The free one allows also .obj
export/download.
Here the Womp Link
https://www.womp.com/

Thanks, but I am truly not impressed with any of those Blender AddOns after watching the videos on them.
This SDF sounds too gimmicky to me.

I actually purchased a few Blender Addons in the past, ie Fluent, Simply Concept, GridModeler, KitOps, and many more which are mostly collecting dust.
The only AddOn I use a lot is Quad Remesher.

I also do not like any function editor (like e-onsoftware Vue uses) or the procedural tools and nodes in Blender.
I just find them too confusing to use. Perhaps it is because of my age (71) and spending 35+ years as a database programmer and system administrator.

The only new tech (meaning new to me) I tackled in the last 5 years was learning a great NAS operating system basked on Slackware Linux called Unraid.

I am comfortable with Blender, Moi3D, 3D Coat, DAZ Studio and Vue.

I still would love to see a Groboto or Mesh Fusion addon for Blender or MOI3D or 3DCoat.

Thanks kindly

Ken

@Kenmo

Your welcome, no problem with that.

For other Users here a few things i modeled with MagicaCSG.

As tiny and inconspicuous as MagicaCSG may look, you can do
a lot with it and it has even a pretty good built-in renderer.
Every Picture was rendered in it.

And as already mentioned, everything about these models can
be changed at any time and remains editable at any time.

The Ideas of, Mystic Door, Night Scene and Radio are not mine
but i model everything with MagicaCSG. The Vespa Scooter was
an Idea of mine and one of my first tries with MagicaCSG.

a cool thing with Magicacgs is the quasi real time render! ;)

Nice models you've created.

@Pilou, indeed and the Dev will even improve the Renderer
in the next steps.

@KENMO, thank you
Modeling in Magicacsg is a bit more playful than in other 3D editors,
as everything remains editable at any time, so you don't have to
worry about making mistakes.

I've included a link here that leads to the Mastodon page of Ephtracy,
the developer, where he regularly shows new ideas and progress.
https://mastodon.gamedev.place/@ephtracy

funny serial of tutorials!

I also own the current version of Curvy 3D, version 5. And it is my playing around 3D app.
Although I am not well versed in it.

an exotic free one very complete :) - https://clavicula.link

Yes, I know it.
It's also in the large SDF Apps List thread in the Blender forum,
which I mentioned above.

If I remember correctly, it used to be called "Neobarock" before.

Here's a fun fact: I thought Rocket 3F free was in the dumps...
I relaunched it out of a clear conscience and miraculously it's back up and running...
The interface where you have everything at your fingertips!
And the save files works! Very SF!
The site and Forum are obviously “down”

Ps Direct Import Export OBJ with Moi 3D! ;)

I tried Rocket3F after having difficulty learning NVIL. I was told by the developer of Rocket3F (I believe his first name was Andrea?) that Rocket3F was based on Nvil and used the same "engine".

I believe there are only 2 principal Guys : Andrei Samardac (Master modeler) & Kun Shi (Master coder) ;)

If I remember correctly, I also think Andrei was a MOI3D user. I believe he had some good MOI3D tutorials on youtube.