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 From:  Sirius (ANDREAS_DREXLER)
11493.39 In reply to 11493.38 
Super.... Thank you
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 From:  David M (DOMCM)
11493.40 
A nit with V5 beta July-30-2024. When running on my 4K display at 225% displaying scaling, a black border appears on the right side of the options menu when opened.
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 From:  Michael Gibson
11493.41 In reply to 11493.40 
Hi David,

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> a black border appears on the right side of the options menu when opened.

Does it seem to go away if you resize the dialog window?

- Michael
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 From:  David M (DOMCM)
11493.42 In reply to 11493.41 
Michael,

Yes, the black border disappears when the window is resized.
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 From:  Sirius (ANDREAS_DREXLER)
11493.43 In reply to 11493.42 
Hello,

it would be good if MOI could create backup files at adjustable intervals and move the older versions to the bottom.

It would be good to be able to define a directory in which these backup files are stored.

Project name Backup file-001 = current status
Project name Backup file-002 = old status
Project name Backup file-003 = even older version
etc.
etc.

It would also be desirable if the number of backup files could be set.

Bye
Andreas
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 From:  pressure (PEER)
11493.44 In reply to 11493.43 
Hi Andreas,

Have you tried IncrementalSave?

http://moi3d.com/2.0/docs/moi_command_reference10.htm

- Peer
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 From:  Sirius (ANDREAS_DREXLER)
11493.45 In reply to 11493.44 
Hello Peer,

thanks for the tip!
That comes very close to what I want.

However, an automatic backup function as described by me would be more convenient and secure.


Bye
Andreas
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 From:  Sirius (ANDREAS_DREXLER)
11493.46 In reply to 11493.45 
Hello Michael,

can I make the view orthogonal to the surfaces
that I have marked with the red arrows in the image?



It would be desirable to be able to align the view orthogonally to any surface.

This would often make the construction easier.

Bye
Andreas
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 From:  Phiro
11493.47 
Hi Andreas,

The Cplane function doesn't give you plain satisfaction ?
Documentation here : http://moi3d.com/4.0/docs/moi_command_reference5.htm#cplane

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 From:  Michael Gibson
11493.48 In reply to 11493.46 
Hi Andreas,

re:
> can I make the view orthogonal to the surfaces
> that I have marked with the red arrows in the image?

Yes as Phiro writes above you can use the Construction Plane (View > CPlane) function to do that.

Snap the orientation picker onto the center point of those planes that you are indicating and then the ortho Top/Front/Right views will be oriented around that local frame of reference. So after you set the CPlane when you draw in the Top view you'll be drawing on that plane.

When you're done use the "Reset CPlane" button inside the View > CPlane command, or also you can right click on View > CPlane as a shortcut to resetting it back to world orientation.

- Michael
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 From:  Sirius (ANDREAS_DREXLER)
11493.49 In reply to 11493.48 
Hello Phiro, hello Michael,

that was what I wanted.
It's great that it's already included in the programme.
Thanks for your help.

Bye
Andreas
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 From:  geekmidget (HF)
11493.50 
I was experimenting a bit with MoI V5, I made an arch and tried to rotate it, but after picking center, when I picked start point, I zoomed in simply to check if point was selected correctly and after some zooming, start point appears outside of the curve and doesn't snap to the edge of the curve no matter where I move cursor.

Why is this happening?
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 From:  Michael Gibson
11493.51 In reply to 11493.50 
Hi HF,

re:
> Why is this happening?

It's hard to know just from a screenshot - if you could attach the .3dm file along with it that would make it possible to analyze it.

But my guess would be that you're probably zoomed in to a super extreme level where you're seeing the effects of microscopic round off errors from how floating point arithmetic works.

- Michael
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 From:  geekmidget (HF)
11493.52 In reply to 11493.51 
I guess it's possible.
Since there is no indication of the zoom level, it's hard to tell what visualization scale is currently on screen.
Would it be possible to include some kind of status in this regard?
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 From:  Michael Gibson
11493.53 In reply to 11493.52 
Hi HF,

re:
> I guess it's possible.

I can verify if you post the .3dm file that matches the screenshot.


> Since there is no indication of the zoom level, it's hard to tell what visualization
> scale is currently on screen.
> Would it be possible to include some kind of status in this regard?

It's possible but could be awkward to implement in perspective.

Do you have an idea of how you would like to see this status?

- Michael
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 From:  geekmidget (HF)
11493.54 In reply to 11493.53 
That was just a test, I deleted it but apparently it was as you said, I had zoomed in to a large extent.

Regarding zoom status, not having this isn't really a deal breaker but I think something visible somewhere in the UI could be useful, and it wouldn't even need to be enabled by default, just as an option for those who want it.

How to actually implement it depends on a number of things, one important being the reference for 1:1 visualization scale. I really couldn't say what's the best approach. I mean, from the practical point of view let's say you select an object of 20mm and start zooming in, by the time the screen shows only part of the object, visualization scale is obviously beyond 1:1 but right now it's not clear if screen is showing 0.5mm or 0.005 or 0.00005, etc. unless you measure something, which makes you loose focus.
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 From:  Mindset (IGNITER)
11493.55 
Dialog Box Desktop Window Docket

Seems that dialog-boxes, even modal ones, have the arrange windows widget enabled.
Is that intentional? I've found it to be intermittently distracting, though not a deal breaker.



Great software that's easy to use.

Moi Bueno
MindSet


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 From:  Michael Gibson
11493.56 In reply to 11493.55 
Hi MindSet,

re:
> Is that intentional? I've found it to be intermittently distracting, though not a deal breaker.

Yes, it depends on whether the dialog box is resizable or not.

It is intentional that dialog boxes that are resizable have the window maximize button enabled, whether modal or non-modal.

- Michael
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 From:  Mindset (IGNITER)
11493.57 In reply to 11493.56 
I'm sure that you know best, but just to be clear, it's not the maximize button that I was questioning, but rather the widget emanating therefrom that causes other desktop windows to dock. It was my preconceived notion that docking application-level windows on the desktop (especially since those are external to Moi) would be the reserved for your main application window only and hence should not be available from dialog-box child windows.

Moi Bueno
MindSet

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 From:  Michael Gibson
11493.58 In reply to 11493.57 
Hi MindSet,

re:
> but just to be clear, it's not the maximize button that I was questioning, but rather the widget emanating
> therefrom that causes other desktop windows to dock.

That looks like something new and maybe a little buggy in Windows 11.

MoI isn't asking to put that up, it just says "please give me a maximize button". It's then up to Windows whether to show that widget or not.

If it should only show on main windows they can see that the window is owned by the main window.


> It was my preconceived notion that docking application-level windows on the desktop (especially
> since those are external to Moi) would be the reserved for your main application window only
> and hence should not be available from dialog-box child windows.

Your expectation seems reasonable to me, hopefully Microsoft will update it to behave like that.

- Michael
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