V5 beta Mar-28-2023 available now - ACIS fillets
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 From:  Michael Gibson
11034.33 In reply to 11034.25 
Hi Charlie, thanks for testing the fillets.

> It seems there are things that the Solids++ fillet can do that the ACIS can't. Will it be sticking around?

Yes, the switch between fillet libraries will be staying for quite a while.

There are some cases where Solids++ can generate a fillet where ACIS can't, mainly on things where the fillet is trying to go around a bend that is smaller than the fillet radius. Solids++ can slice out that self intersecting fillet area if it's not too complicated, but ACIS won't do those cases.

But your case here looks more like a bug in MoI's conversion to and from ACIS geometry, that is an area that I'm still actively working on. I'll add your file to my list to test with.

With the attached version I replaced 2 of the planes and it's working ok on this one.

- Michael
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
11034.34 In reply to 11034.33 
@ Michael
you can modify the Acis libraries or they are "closed" ?

When you say replaced 2 Planes, what is exactly this ? (faces ? ...
Works now fine in one pass with Acis indeed! :)

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 From:  Michael Gibson
11034.35 In reply to 11034.34 
Hi Pilou,

re:
> you can modify the Acis libraries or they are "closed" ?

I don't have the source code for the libraries so I need to ask the ACIS developers (a company called Spatial) to make modifications, I am not able to do it myself.


> When you say replaced 2 Planes, what is exactly this ? (faces ? ...

I replaced 2 planar faces.

- Michael
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 From:  Michael Gibson
11034.36 In reply to 11034.31 
Hi jdb,

re:
> One question: on the Scene browser assignment list, is it/would it be possible to make this a right-click instead
> of a left-click, keeping the existing behavior (click-assign)? <...>

Sorry no there isn't anything set up to modify that back to the old behavior. But you can use right click on the new one which will do an assign without showing the menu. Also Ctrl+Left click is a shortcut for rename.


> On another note: Is there a way to change the dialog font size (seem too large for my
> display)? I have found where to change the UI fonts (made them smaller), but I am probably
> missing something... Thanks again!

There is a setting for it on the Options dialog under Options > General > "UI size" :


Thanks, - Michael
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 From:  joeldberry
11034.37 In reply to 11034.36 
Thanks for the quick reply and workaround!
And a big DUH on the UI font. I knew I had seen it before :)
jdb
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
11034.38 In reply to 11034.35 
Ok i have found the 2 faces to remplace but any idea of what that made ? :) (up face cylinder and adjacent face box)
Better welding edges ?...

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 From:  Michael Gibson
11034.39 In reply to 11034.38 
Hi Pilou,

re:
> but any idea of what that made ?

Not sure yet, but probably different orientations on the outwards surface normals.

- Michael
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
11034.40 In reply to 11034.39 
There are gaps in the complete original object

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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
11034.41 
Flip faces don't make no more, only select edges of an erased face then Plane make something...then global boolean Union
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 From:  BurrMan
11034.42 In reply to 11034.11 
“”””””” I'm sorry it's probably best if I don't discuss the licensing terms. But I will be absorbing the licensing cost, Moi prices will remain the same.””””””

Wow…. Just Wow!!!

Thank you!

I don't know if Spatial knows yet the jackpot they just hit!
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 From:  BurrMan
11034.43 In reply to 11034.1 
And in this corner... The undisputed champion at 51.4 MB

Once again demonstrating Sheer force of will!
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 From:  Michael Gibson
11034.44 In reply to 11034.43 
Hi Burr, yeah but ACIS added in around 15MB.

Still pretty lean by today's standards though.

- Michael
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 From:  Abhijit (ABHIJIT_SINGH)
11034.45 
Wow this is such an amazing update!
I love Moi 3d, one of best tools I have the pleasure of working with everyday!
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
11034.46 
;)
In this system you can't increase the radius up the first intersection of fillets between them! Here it will be 1!

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 From:  Death
11034.47 
On my version (latest beta) it doesn't show the LIBRARY option.
What do I need to do to see it?

Also: I don't see any thumbnails in explorer (win 10)

TIA

EDITED: 4 Apr 2023 by DEATH

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 From:  Michael Gibson
11034.48 In reply to 11034.47 
Hi Death,

re:
> On my version (latest beta) it doesn't show the LIBRARY option.
> What do I need to do to see it?

What do you have selected when you run the fillet command? If you have curves selected then you won't see it, if you have edges selected then you should see it.

Are you testing with a default install or are you applying customized UI? Are you possibly overwriting the regular fillet command with an older version?


> Also: I don't see any thumbnails in explorer (win 10)

Can you show a screenshot of an explorer window?

- Michael
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 From:  Death
11034.49 In reply to 11034.48 
Hi Michael,

I am using my old standby custom UI, and I copied the fillet files from the beta program directory to make sure.

Included screenshots







Oops, I forgot:
The clamp.jpg is the one generated from the custom UI, the other test files don't have it...

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 From:  Michael Gibson
11034.50 In reply to 11034.49 
Hi Death,

re:
> I am using my old standby custom UI, and I copied the fillet files from
> the beta program directory to make sure.

What files are you copying exactly? Are you overwriting Fillet.htm or Fillet.js inside the commands install folder?

For the thumbnails, it's normal for an Explorer window to not show thumbnails when it's in "Details" view mode.

You need to switch to a view mode that will display thumbnails, like View > "Large icons" mode.

- Michael
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 From:  Death
11034.51 In reply to 11034.50 
Hmm, that's weird, I just resaved one of the tests and it shows the .jpg for it.
But, I think that maybe the pic that the custom UI saves, unless that is what the new version is supposed to do?



I copied everything that said fillet, or fillets.xxx.
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 From:  Michael Gibson
11034.52 In reply to 11034.51 
Hi Death,

re:
> Hmm, that's weird, I just resaved one of the tests and it shows the .jpg for it.
> But, I think that maybe the pic that the custom UI saves, unless that is what the new version is supposed to do?

The new version does not save any additional .jpg file, it saves an image that is stored inside the .3dm file and File Explorer windows will display that embedded image when viewing in a thumbnail displaying mode.

Only new .3dm files that were generated with this new beta will have the thumbnails in them.


> I copied everything that said fillet, or fillets.xxx.

Ok, but why are you copying those files? You'll need to leave these files alone and keep the Fillet.js and Fillet.htm files that are in the regular install.

If you overwrite Fillet.js and Fillet.htm with old versions from previous betas that's when you will have problems.

- Michael
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