Yes true there are old version around the Internet but the problem is that there is no official download from Autodesk so you have to take the risk of downloading a virus infected installation file. That said I took the risk myself and there wasn't any virus in it.

Hello Hans, thank you so much for the reply. Your original post also cleared up the most straight path to go from MOI to Fusion and back (exporting as IGS out of MOI and exporting as STEP out of Fusion for MOI reimport), which is something I was meaning to look into for a while. This worked perfectly.

Edge features are indeed straightforward to remove in Fusion, but a lot more can actually be done with Push/Pull. Now of course the Fusion360 UX is as awful as it has always been and I don't want to spend more than a few seconds in this software, but this will be without a doubt a handy companion to MOI in some cases. Here is some very quick testing on a simple part :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y_k86M0pQU



I know that many users have been asking for a full featured History feature in MOI, but imho this is a bit of a misguided request. I feel like what most people actually need is *some* way to edit features after the fact, but not necessarily on a timeline (even though linear timeline editing is obviously the first idea that comes to mind). This non-linear Push/Pull editing paradigm (which I believe is at the core of DesigSpark) would really work fantastically well in MOI.

Hi pior

I like that you made a youtube video of it. That's actually the easiest way to follow ;-).

I'm glad you could use some of it. I actually did some trial an error before I succeeded in finding a non destructive way to export/import from Moi to Fusion and vice versa. Some of the other formats altered the model wrongly.

Regarding the history feature what you could do is simply copy your model in different states and put them next to each other in chronological order. Just like my attached file with the 6 different models. This could as well be states of the same model.

What you are after seems to me to be a parametric CAD modeller where you can change every little part without changing the whole model or starting over. Solidworks and Onshape can do that and others as well. Allibre can also do it and it's much cheaper. Fusion 360 is also parametric as well.

The best systems has both direct modeling which is the usual faster modeling way and parametric which can change the model without ruining it as a whole but you have to prepare in advance to be able to go back and change different parts of the model.

https://www.designworldonline.com/what-is-parametric-modeling/

https://www.ptc.com/en/blogs/cad/parametric-vs-direct-modeling-which-side-are-you-on

Heya,

Absolutely - I have tried all of these (or almost all of these) in the past, and while these paradigms all have advantages on paper they still don't come close to the raw speed of execution that MOI allows, at least for the kind of work I am doing with it. I also happen to have extremely low tolerance for poorly design user input/interaction, so that doesn't help (but it is beneficial in the long run :D)

But still, the MOI>Fusion>Moi route seems very viable, so again thank you for clearing that path. Amusingly enough Fusion crashed immediately when I closed it after exporting out the part - something 100% to be expected given the disastrous state this software is in.

As for history : that's precisely what I do :) But earlier I meant *construction* history/timeline (with all steps going from sketch to part editable after the fact), which is useful in many cases, but not so useful in others, especially as the number of operations grow. I know it's been requested a lot for MOI but I am not completely convinced just yet. Still, curious to see where that could lead.