Hi Michael,

When I select the object and then change the color (style) to default, the object deletes itself...

Bug?

Hi Death,

re:
> When I select the object and then change the color (style) to default, the object deletes itself...
>
> Bug?

It's actually not deleting itself, it's hiding it because all the other objects assigned to Style = Default were hidden.

I noticed recently that that behavior got accidentally broken at some point quite a while ago and I restored it in v5.

The concept is if all the objects currently assigned to the style are hidden or locked it makes the object you are assigning there to assume the same state.

If you hold down shift+ctrl when clicking the style swatch it won't change the object state.

Maybe since it was broken for a long time and nobody noticed it would be better to not do that. It's meant to make styles behave a little more similar to layers.

- Michael

IDK, but I would prefer it NOT to happen, it is a bug.
If you could fix it, that would be great.
Until you explained the bug, I was at a loss...
I did a few other objects and they all "disappeared", so I naturally assumed it to be a bug in the beta release..
Almost reinstalled version 4 to get past it, but thought to ask you first.

Thanx.

Hi Michael, yes it's a magic mouse, i'll check your solution at work this morning.
Thank you.
Moujiik

OK it's working now.

Hi Michael,

Thank you for your time and help :-)

Here is a new question:

I noticed that Nodeeditor doesn't work in V5. I have it installed in V4 is there away to have it active in V5 as well?

Best,
Psygorn

Hi Psygorn,

re:
> I noticed that Nodeeditor doesn't work in V5. I have it installed in V4 is there away to have it active in V5 as well?

The Nodeeditor works the same in V5 as it does in V4.

How do you have it installed in V4, do you maybe have it copied into the V4 program files install directory instead of in app data?

How are you launching it in V4, can you show me the shortcut key that you have set up for it?

- Michael

Hi Michael,

Nodeeditor located here: "C:\...\AppData\Roaming\Moi" that's why I expected it to work with V5 as well.

The short key I use for it in V4 is: Alt+N

-Psygorn

Hi Psygorn,


> Nodeeditor located here: "C:\...\AppData\Roaming\Moi" that's why I expected it to work with V5 as well.

Yes, if it's being used from there it should work in both v4 and v5 as well.


re:
> The short key I use for it in V4 is: Alt+N

Can you also post the text you have for the "command" part of the shortcut key?

- Michael

Hi Michael,

A new issue appeared! (It has nothing to do with Nodeeditor)

Open the attached file in V5, select all red curves press Ctrl and while have it pressed try to move them (basic copying procedure)! V5 copies only few lines not all of the selected lines! (V4 is able to open this file and there everything works fine)

> Can you also post the text you have for the "command" part of the shortcut key?

Here is the script:
script: if ( moi.majorVersionNumber == 3 ) { moi.ui.createDialog( 'nodeeditor/index.html', 'resizeable,defaultWidth:680,defaultHeight:420', moi.ui.mainWindow ); } else if ( moi.majorVersionNumber == 4 ) { moi.ui.createDialog( 'moi://appdata/nodeeditor/index.html', 'resizeable,defaultWidth:680,defaultHeight:420', moi.ui.mainWindow ); }

I changed it to : script: if ( moi.majorVersionNumber == 4 ) { moi.ui.createDialog( 'nodeeditor/index.html', 'resizeable,defaultWidth:680,defaultHeight:420', moi.ui.mainWindow ); } else if ( moi.majorVersionNumber == 5 ) { moi.ui.createDialog( 'moi://appdata/nodeeditor/index.html', 'resizeable,defaultWidth:680,defaultHeight:420', moi.ui.mainWindow ); }

and Now it works :) thank you for the hint.
Edit: or maybe I shouldn't change it that way?

Please help me with other issue.

-Psygorn

Hi Psygorn, for the node editor since you probably don't use version 3 anymore you can remove the version specific stuff in there and just put this:

script: moi.ui.createDialog( 'moi://appdata/nodeeditor/index.html', 'resizeable,defaultWidth:680,defaultHeight:420', moi.ui.mainWindow );

That will then work in v4, v5, and v6+

Your new one above will break again when major version number becomes 6 in the future.


For your red curves, that's definitely a bug in v5 where Ctrl + drag is not copying edge curves like it should be. Some of the selection changes relating to groups must have broken that.

For the time being use Transform > Copy to copy edge curves instead of Ctrl+drag . I'll work on fixing the bug for the next beta release, thank you for reporting it!

Thanks, - Michael

Hi Michael,

Thank you for your help & time. :-)

-Psygorn

This folder structure you mention would be really useful — I actually need it far more than I need the existing group, which is more like a compound part object than a group of independent objects.

With the new groups, it would be nice to be able to make the side panel a bit wider. It could be done in terms of how many columns of buttons you have — I'd be happy to go to five or even six columns.

Also, in the dark theme, the selection rectangle and construction lines are pretty hard to see if you also have a darkish background color. It would be nice to have them tweakable without a full theme swap.

Hi Cuboctahedron,

re:
> With the new groups, it would be nice to be able to make the side panel
> a bit wider. It could be done in terms of how many columns of buttons you have — I'd
> be happy to go to five or even six columns.

If you have Options > General > Scene browser position = "Adjacent" mode set so the scene browser is in its own pane you can make it as wide as you need by dragging its edge.

- Michael

Hi Cuboctahedron,

re:
> Also, in the dark theme, the selection rectangle and construction lines are pretty hard
> to see if you also have a darkish background color. It would be nice to have them
> tweakable without a full theme swap.

Can you please post a screenshot of what you're seeing?

When you have a dark background, the construction lines should display as alternating dark and white to make them easier to see. That should change from the regular light mode display where they are drawn in a dash pattern of color / transparent / color / transparent etc...

It's generally best not to have a really pitch black viewport background because then files that you open with black lines in them will be very difficult to see.

- Michael

Yes. This is great, but it still wastes a lot of screen. I guess as an alternative, being able to pin both the construct and transform groups open at the same time would be nice, but that's probably just a re-skinning at that point :-)

With this color scheme, sometimes I get a nice bold black selection rectangle, and sometimes I get this.

Hi Cuboctahedron,

re:
> Yes. This is great, but it still wastes a lot of screen.

When you're not actively using the browser pane you can hide it using the "Browser" button at the bottom.


> I guess as an alternative, being able to pin both the construct and transform groups open at the same
> time would be nice, but that's probably just a re-skinning at that point :-)

There is a startup script you can put in which will ungroup the palettes:
http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=9439.3

And a couple of variations:
http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=9953.2
http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=6507.487

- Michael