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 From:  Michael Gibson
10653.41 In reply to 10653.40 
Hi Psygorn,

re:
> Is it possible to have Moi discovers startup settings automatically?

Sorry I don't understand the question. What do you mean by "startup settings" ?


> > The other options you could do would be to apply the same browser pane mod
> > to the v5 beta so the scripts would be able to find what they are expecting there too
>
> By doing above mentioned solution Moi V5 beta would have the same UI settings as Moi V4?

I'm not sure what you mean by "UI settings" in this context. What it would do would be to
make the MoI v5 beta have the same structural content as your customized v4.

The reason why you are getting script errors is because your scripts are looking for an HTML
element with id="CommandBarCustomUI" inside of the file BrowserPane.htm .

The regular MoI install does not have any element with that id in BrowserPane.htm , it has
it in CommandBar.htm .

So for those scripts to be working in v4 you must have modified your v4 BrowserPane.htm
file to have that element in it.

If you modify your V5's BrowserPane.htm to have the same thing that you added to the v4 one
then that would solve the problem.


> Do I have to do things manually In order to apply the same browser pane mode to the V5 beta?
> Is there a way I can have it done automatically? And basically, tell me how to do it!

It could be possible to change your scripts so that they insert at the end of the <body> of
BrowserPane.htm or something like that instead.

If you can post your startup scripts and the modified BrowserPane.htm file you have made
for v4 then I'll be able to tell you how to do that.

- Michael
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 From:  Psygorn (DRILLBIT)
10653.42 In reply to 10653.41 
Hi Michael,

Thank you for your time and your support. :)

>If you can post your startup scripts and the modified BrowserPane.htm file you have made
for v4 then I'll be able to tell you how to do that.

Sure! I would prefer to leave things in your hands in order to prevent myself from messing up with the codes.

I have attached Scripts.js as well as Scripts Full.js

If you need something else please do tell me.

Edit: I have renamed BrowserPane.htm files for better indication

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 From:  Michael Gibson
10653.43 In reply to 10653.42 
Hi Psygorn, here are updated versions of those scripts,

With those in place does it work ok both in v4 and v5 now?

- Michael

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 From:  coi (MARCO)
10653.44 
hi,
one question. is it possible to deselect a group in the view panel? @moment if i select 2 groups and want to deselect one of them, i end up with one selected object of the to-deselected group.
best, marco

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 From:  Michael Gibson
10653.45 In reply to 10653.44 
Hi marco,

re:
> one question. is it possible to deselect a group in the view panel? @moment if i
> select 2 groups and want to deselect one of them, i end up with one selected object
> of the to-deselected group.

When you do a second click on a group, it will "drill in" to select children of the group, similar to how a second click on a solid selects edge or face sub-objects of the solid.

With a solid if you use Ctrl+click on a selected solid, it will deselect it without doing any drill-in. I should be able to make the same behavior with groups, but that's not working at the moment.

For now you can deselect it though by doing ctrl+click on your one selected sub-object, or if you continue to drill in when you can't drill in anymore the last click will deselect (without ctrl).

- Michael
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 From:  Psygorn (DRILLBIT)
10653.46 In reply to 10653.43 
Hi Michael,

I replaced those scripts with updated ones at C:\...\AppData\Roaming\Moi\startup

I still see error messages with V5. ( not with V4)

A question: Shouldn't I replace BrowserPane.htm of V5 with BrowserPane.htm of V4?

-Psygorn
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 From:  Michael Gibson
10653.47 In reply to 10653.46 
Hi Psygorn,

re:
> I still see error messages with V5. ( not with V4)

Are there any additional scripts in your startup folder aside from the 2 you posted?


> A question: Shouldn't I replace BrowserPane.htm of V5 with BrowserPane.htm of V4?

It could work but it can also be problematic to get a kind of frankenstein collection of old and new versions all combined together. You can run into things like missing new stuff that has been added in to V5.

If I can update the scripts you are using then you won't need to do that.

- Michael
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 From:  Psygorn (DRILLBIT)
10653.48 In reply to 10653.47 
Hi Michael,

Yes, there are at least 13 other .js files there! I thought you only need ones with "script" on their names! sorry, my bad!

The whole old startup folder is attached. (it's a zip file)

-Psygorn
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 From:  Michael Gibson
10653.49 In reply to 10653.48 
Hi Psygorn, here you go, use all these updated versions instead and does that work the same in v4 and v5 for you after that?

- Michael
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 From:  Psygorn (DRILLBIT)
10653.50 In reply to 10653.49 
Hi Michael,

Yes, It works fine :-)

Thanks for your time and help!

:-)
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 From:  Michael Gibson
10653.51 In reply to 10653.50 
You're welcome Psygorn, I'm glad it is working now!

- Michael
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 From:  moujiik
10653.52 In reply to 10653.51 
Hi, Michael, on mac, after intalling v5, the mouse wheel don't zoom but go up or down in 3d view, and all other views. What is the situation ? Normal behavior on v4.
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 From:  Michael Gibson
10653.53 In reply to 10653.52 
Hi moujiik,

re:
> Hi, Michael, on mac, after intalling v5, the mouse wheel don't zoom but go up or down in 3d view, and
> all other views. What is the situation ? Normal behavior on v4.

What kind of mouse do you have, is it Apple's "Magic Mouse" or a different one?

In v5 the default behavior of Magic Mouse "scrolling" (1 finger swipe) in MoI is to pan instead of zoom.
That's to fix a bug in trackpad handling.

You should be able to revert to V4 behavior by setting this value in moi.ini :

[MultiTouch]
UseTrackpadScrollAsMouseWheel=y

Or also in v5 if you hold down the Alt key when doing the wheel motion it should work as a zoom instead of a pan.

So the reason for this is kind of a convoluted story. The way a trackpad works is the 2 finger swipe gesture normally does a panning type action and pinching is used for zooming. The Magic Mouse happens to send the exact same event for it's "scroll" as the trackpad 2 finger swipe.

In MoI v4 I tried to detect if the scroll event was coming from a trackpad or a magic mouse to do panning for the trackpad and zooming for the magic mouse.

Unfortunately the detection didn't work in certain situations, causing a bug where 2 finger swipe on the trackpad started to do zoom (like it was a magic mouse) instead of pan, as described here:
http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=10277.1

As best as I can tell there is not any totally reliable method for distinguishing a scroll event as coming from a magic mouse (with one finger swipe) or a trackpad with 2 finger swipe.

So it seems that Apple really wants the Magic Mouse to work like a trackpad so that's what MoI is doing now with v5. I've given up on trying to automatically detect which type of device was used to generate the event.

- Michael
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 From:  Death
10653.54 
Hi Michael,

When I select the object and then change the color (style) to default, the object deletes itself...

Bug?
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 From:  Michael Gibson
10653.55 In reply to 10653.54 
Hi Death,

re:
> When I select the object and then change the color (style) to default, the object deletes itself...
>
> Bug?

It's actually not deleting itself, it's hiding it because all the other objects assigned to Style = Default were hidden.

I noticed recently that that behavior got accidentally broken at some point quite a while ago and I restored it in v5.

The concept is if all the objects currently assigned to the style are hidden or locked it makes the object you are assigning there to assume the same state.

If you hold down shift+ctrl when clicking the style swatch it won't change the object state.

Maybe since it was broken for a long time and nobody noticed it would be better to not do that. It's meant to make styles behave a little more similar to layers.

- Michael

EDITED: 13 Apr 2022 by MICHAEL GIBSON

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 From:  Death
10653.56 In reply to 10653.55 
IDK, but I would prefer it NOT to happen, it is a bug.
If you could fix it, that would be great.
Until you explained the bug, I was at a loss...
I did a few other objects and they all "disappeared", so I naturally assumed it to be a bug in the beta release..
Almost reinstalled version 4 to get past it, but thought to ask you first.

Thanx.
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 From:  Jfs (PAQUICINNO)
10653.57 In reply to 10653.53 
Hi Michael, yes it's a magic mouse, i'll check your solution at work this morning.
Thank you.
Moujiik
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 From:  moujiik
10653.58 In reply to 10653.57 
OK it's working now.
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 From:  Psygorn (DRILLBIT)
10653.59 In reply to 10653.51 
Hi Michael,

Thank you for your time and help :-)

Here is a new question:

I noticed that Nodeeditor doesn't work in V5. I have it installed in V4 is there away to have it active in V5 as well?

Best,
Psygorn
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 From:  Michael Gibson
10653.60 In reply to 10653.59 
Hi Psygorn,

re:
> I noticed that Nodeeditor doesn't work in V5. I have it installed in V4 is there away to have it active in V5 as well?

The Nodeeditor works the same in V5 as it does in V4.

How do you have it installed in V4, do you maybe have it copied into the V4 program files install directory instead of in app data?

How are you launching it in V4, can you show me the shortcut key that you have set up for it?

- Michael
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