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 From:  BurrMan
10548.8 In reply to 10548.7 
Yes. Max made the Gear Script and mentioned he made it as "simplified".

My CAM package has all the pressure angles and root fillets and like 4 other radius values to input..

The SpurGear script was Petr's and is simplified with just diametral pitch also...

Just concept stuff.....
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 From:  BurrMan
10548.9 In reply to 10548.8 
So like here you can see Michael explain to Brian how to make a rack for the pinion...

http://moi3d.com/forum/lmessages.php?webtag=MOI&msg=1420.8

But really though, if you are designing for precision and manufacturing of real gears, there are things that need to be considered beyond simple modeling. Especially when translating radial motion to linear motion... things have to be engineered....

Anyway....
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 From:  Barry-H
10548.10 

EDITED: 8 Jan 2022 by BARRY-H

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 From:  BurrMan
10548.11 In reply to 10548.10 
Thanks Barry,
The reference is the best one i have found yet... bookmarked

As a side note, a few years back i engaged Michael in an "unwrqpping" discussion and he gave some precise info on converting radians (for unwrapping).

All that discussion ended when he made MoI's "UnwrapCurve" command! :o
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 From:  BurrMan
10548.12 In reply to 10548.11 
Since we were talking about gears, I wanted to look for any input on "Planetary/Inside ring gears.

When looking at images and online stuff, I cannot find anything referencing this.

My question is, shouldn't the tooth profile be "Inverted" also?

I see everybody do just a negative to get the outer ring. Maybe if the outer ring is STATIONARY and only provides a rotational constraint to all the inner gears.
There was an update made to the gear script for "Inner" where he mentions he just reverses the addendum and dedendum to get clearances...

But if the outer ring rotates, the teeth should also be inverted? (See image) To maintain the designed "Pressure Angles" and such.



As I type, I think maybe the outer ring is always meant to be "stationary" in its function? (Lack of understanding on my part)

Anyway, Any enlightenment is welcome..
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 From:  Barry-H
10548.13 In reply to 10548.12 
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 From:  BurrMan
10548.14 In reply to 10548.13 
Hi Barry,
Thanks for the link, that's pretty cool looking stuff.

But it doesn't really answer my fundamental question of inverting the tooth design.

It appears to just swap out the addendum and dedendum like the MoI script does.


I also asked the question in another forum. Maybe I can get an engineer to let me know I've taken a wrong turn :o

It's just a curiosity and a play on how my thoughts work.
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 From:  wayne hill (WAYNEHILL5202)
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
10548.16 
Seems excellent!
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 From:  blowlamp
10548.17 
Check out Gearotic.

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 From:  Barry-H
10548.18 In reply to 10548.14 
Hi Burr,
I found this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Involute_gear which shows the constant velocity the involute shape produces.
So I think the answer is inverting the tooth shape without inverting it’s axis (origin of construction)will result in a inconstant velocity thro the tooth meshing.
Cheers
Barry
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 From:  BurrMan
10548.19 In reply to 10548.18 
Hi Barry,
I agree. But this still misses my point.

If you search and look at all the models and such, they are just made with "negative" cutouts.

So, my point is the tooth profile should not be a negative, but inverted.

Inverted would include all the knowledge, math and calculations to create involute meshimg, just like on opposing module spurs... (obviously a recalculation. Not just simple coordinate inversion. So my image is simplified.

I was looking for the wiki or blog on how to calculate the inversion...
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 From:  wayne hill (WAYNEHILL5202)
10548.20 In reply to 10548.19 
Have you tried using the image search option to look for pictures with calculations?

Just typed in "How is rack pitch calculated?" with image search results and found several images with calculations.

Like:

https://www.sdp-si.com/resources/elements-of-metric-gear-technology/index.php
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