Hey Michael,

That's very kind of you. Thank you. It was the extrude, rotate, zoom and pan. The navigation was more of delay than lag. When I try to zoom, there will be a delay and then it will run smooth. Just that once though. Every time I try to navigate, the delay will happen. The Extrude is definitely a lag.

-B

Hi Billa, a Direct3D9 renderer option looks like it will be feasible. I think I'll have a test version for you in a couple of days. Hopefully it should behave like v3 on your card, we'll see.

- Michael

Excellent! Thanks so much Michael!

Hey bong,
I would try these couple things.

Go into nvidia control panel and under 3d settings, use the pulldown to actually select your gpu. On the physx tab and also 3d settings-opengl selection. You can set this globally or on the program tab.

Then i would enter the bios and check for latest version. Various settings correct . Ram settings correct? (Xmp profiles)

What brand of rtx 2080 card?

Some brands like dell have firmwares for the card..

Hit windows key and type winver and let us know what version you have. Then look at windows update history and see if there are any failures in the list...

BTW: i stuck MoI4 on an rtx 2080ti and it ran lightning fast. All the OTHER components of that particular computer were built "around" the card though. I didn't put a new card in an old system. FYI

Hey Burrman,

I went into the Nvidia control panel and I didn't have the option of selecting my gpu. so I did some research about that and it seems I'm not the only one with that problem so I went into windows and chose power saving. for Moi. the only other option was high performance. I tried both with no change on either one.

I haven't gone into Bios yet, because I honestly dont know what I'm supposed to be seeing in there.

Here are some links to all my parts. I built this 9/2019.

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2080-super-gv-n208swf3oc-8gd/p/N82E16814932211?Item=N82E16814932211

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232748?Item=N82E16820232748

https://www.newegg.com/core-i9-x-series-intel-core-i9-9940x/p/N82E16819117964?Item=N82E16819117964

If you wanna see more parts let me know.

I'm attaching some screengrabs. One is my win version. the other two are my nvidia control panel and my options in windows for GFX card behavior.

Thanks for helping out!

-B

Almost have a Direct3D9 renderer working.

- Michael

Fantastic!

Hey Bong, i would remove the MoI entry on the "windows management" screen you show.

On the Nvidia managment one, whats just below the "cuda gpu's" option you show. Look on the global tab.

Also, where are you getting the nvidia driver? Direct from nvidia?

BTW: we should just wait for Michaels directx9 solution. That may just settle the whole matter, since v3 works great on this system...

Here is what is below Cuda on the global settings. Yeah. directly from Nvidia.

-B

Doesn't hurt to troubleshoot I guess, totally up to you though.

Hi Billa, I've got a Direct3D9 version ready for you to try, I've sent you a PM.

- Michael

Hey bong, so the setting talked about before is titled "opengl rendering gpu". Select your gpu in the dropdown for that setting... under power management mode, is there a "performance" option instead of power optimization?

The last thing is regarding ykur monitor with the gtx card. Are you sure your monitor is "g-sync" compatible? Look at the monitor technology setting listed there....

So I selected my card in the drop for Opengl rendering gpu and selected maximum performance. See attached. Not sure if my monitor does allow for G-sync, but the Nvidia settings has it turned on. In other news Michael sent me the Direct 3d9 version this morning and its running great. Everything works except for Zoom. I have a delay with it, but i had a slight delay with in, v3. So At least the lag is gone.... for now (Fingers crossed, for good). Thanks Michael!
and thanks Burrman for helping as well. I'm still down for troubleshooting if you want to continue, if not. I understand. Here is a link to my main monitor.

https://www.newegg.com/aoc-q3279vwfd8-32-qhd/p/N82E16824160392?Item=9SIA6ZP8TJ6088

So looming at AOC display website, it appears you can "setup" g-sync to be enabled...

Main thing, is that monitor plugged into a display port or one of the other types...

Is it set as the "primary" monitor?

You could disable all the g-sync for that monitor as a test. So on the g-sync tab and also in the monitor technology option of the 3d settings, all in nvidia driver....

Be sure to remove moi from the windows display control. Actually, i believe windows should have notified you that nvidia already had control... (but i could be wrong)

Its plugged using display port and is set as primary monitor. I disabled G-sync. And I released Moi from windows display control last night. No change on the delay.

The Direct3D9 renderer was successful in getting V3 behavior on this hardware. So for v5 that will be an option you can set in moi.ini under GraphicsAPI=Direct3D9.

So for v5 the Windows version will support Direct3D11 (default), Direct3D9 and also OpenGL.

- Michael

Hey Bong,
I don't really have anything else. Michaels solution is well enough anyway...

Be sure to put any of those changes back as they were before...

:)

Will do and thanks so much for your help!

Hey Michael,

I started using the beta of v5 yesterday and I haven't had the lag once so far. I dont know what changed under the hood, but its working like v3 now. So whatever you did. Thank you!

-B