Hi Billa, keep HWMonitor running for a couple of days so you can see what the peak temp gets to.

- Michael

Will do Michael. Will report back this weekend, once i clear the dust out. Thanks again. Oh I also disabled the Nividia overlay thing and uninstalled Camtasia.

-B

Hi

I have the same issue, but.

It happens only on first time I do extrusion when I start Moi. While doing extrusion first time it takes a while, but after that all extrusions are quick and smooth - so not a problem for me.

Thanks
Perttu

You need to look in the task manager at this point, maybe there will be a hint.

hi there.

from top of my head..

try unstalling display drivers using ddu and make a 'clean' re-install. there is always some gunk left from previous drivers...

https://www.wagnardsoft.com/content/display-driver-uninstaller-ddu-v18036-released


is vertical sync on or off? nvidia control panel, 3d settings..sometimes this could produce hiccups by capping the refresh rate.

i noticed that your display is running @75hz. just to rule things out, try setting your display rate to 60 hz and check if there are any changes. sometimes helper apps like g-sync will kick in and that could cause some lags.

try putting it through some benchmark like 3dmark 11, there might be some memory problems after all.

https://benchmarks.ul.com/legacy-benchmarks

it's legacy, but should work fine.

best,
marco

Hey Marco,

I ran the benchmark test which gave me the following result. I tried changing the display from 75 to 60, nothing changed. I also turned off vertical sync. It was on "Let the application decide" I turned it off, no change. I'm going to do the clean reinstall of the gfx card later this afternoon and let you know how that goes. Thanks so much for the help.

-B

I have some lag too when using the extrusion tool in version 4. I have a MS Surface Book 2 with Geforce 1060 GTX. I will try to investigate the reason also.

Ok, So I blew out all the dust, was that much actually. I ran the DDU to uninstall my GPU drivers and then ran a clean install. Ran Moi and the lag is still present. My temp hasn't gone above 131 degrees fahrenheit. So I guess unless someone else has any suggestions, I'm just going to go back to v3 for now. Thanks everyone for really trying.

-B

Hi Billa, I'm investigating if I can make a Direct3D9 renderer as an option. If I can get that working I'll send you a test build to see if that helps.

Also just to double check, it's not only the extrude command that has the lag, is that correct? It was in just rotating the view around as well?

- Michael

Hey Michael,

That's very kind of you. Thank you. It was the extrude, rotate, zoom and pan. The navigation was more of delay than lag. When I try to zoom, there will be a delay and then it will run smooth. Just that once though. Every time I try to navigate, the delay will happen. The Extrude is definitely a lag.

-B

Hi Billa, a Direct3D9 renderer option looks like it will be feasible. I think I'll have a test version for you in a couple of days. Hopefully it should behave like v3 on your card, we'll see.

- Michael

Excellent! Thanks so much Michael!

Hey bong,
I would try these couple things.

Go into nvidia control panel and under 3d settings, use the pulldown to actually select your gpu. On the physx tab and also 3d settings-opengl selection. You can set this globally or on the program tab.

Then i would enter the bios and check for latest version. Various settings correct . Ram settings correct? (Xmp profiles)

What brand of rtx 2080 card?

Some brands like dell have firmwares for the card..

Hit windows key and type winver and let us know what version you have. Then look at windows update history and see if there are any failures in the list...

BTW: i stuck MoI4 on an rtx 2080ti and it ran lightning fast. All the OTHER components of that particular computer were built "around" the card though. I didn't put a new card in an old system. FYI

Hey Burrman,

I went into the Nvidia control panel and I didn't have the option of selecting my gpu. so I did some research about that and it seems I'm not the only one with that problem so I went into windows and chose power saving. for Moi. the only other option was high performance. I tried both with no change on either one.

I haven't gone into Bios yet, because I honestly dont know what I'm supposed to be seeing in there.

Here are some links to all my parts. I built this 9/2019.

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-2080-super-gv-n208swf3oc-8gd/p/N82E16814932211?Item=N82E16814932211

https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-288-pin-ddr4-sdram/p/N82E16820232748?Item=N82E16820232748

https://www.newegg.com/core-i9-x-series-intel-core-i9-9940x/p/N82E16819117964?Item=N82E16819117964

If you wanna see more parts let me know.

I'm attaching some screengrabs. One is my win version. the other two are my nvidia control panel and my options in windows for GFX card behavior.

Thanks for helping out!

-B

Almost have a Direct3D9 renderer working.

- Michael

Fantastic!

Hey Bong, i would remove the MoI entry on the "windows management" screen you show.

On the Nvidia managment one, whats just below the "cuda gpu's" option you show. Look on the global tab.

Also, where are you getting the nvidia driver? Direct from nvidia?

BTW: we should just wait for Michaels directx9 solution. That may just settle the whole matter, since v3 works great on this system...

Here is what is below Cuda on the global settings. Yeah. directly from Nvidia.

-B

Doesn't hurt to troubleshoot I guess, totally up to you though.