Inset function unexpected behavior - bugs?
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
10051.2 In reply to 10051.1 
Depending of the size of the Inset!
But you can make this! ;)

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 From:  RD (REDDIAMOND)
10051.3 In reply to 10051.2 
Thank you for your reply Pilou. Could you elaborate a bit more on your answer?

What do you mean by order and size of the inset?

I have used the same Inset value (1mm) for all the Insets in my examples. But I'm getting various results and I don't understand why. The expected behavior of this function is: select a face, Inset, and then get an Inset with a 90 degree angle from that face. The function works sometimes, like I have demonstrated, but it seems to fail sometimes and it's not clear why. Also I don't understand why sometimes the function is creating an Inset with some faces aligned to adjacent faces, while some are aligned correctly to the selected face.

Thanks.
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
10051.4 In reply to 10051.3 
Sorry i was too speed! Answered without open program ! :)
Order has nothing to do!

Only size and neighbouring faces!

Return on my post! I had changed it!
https://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=10051.2

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 From:  RD (REDDIAMOND)
10051.5 In reply to 10051.4 
This is what I get if I try to do what you did.


I select these two faces (not separated)




And this is the result

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 From:  RD (REDDIAMOND)
10051.6 In reply to 10051.5 
Could you share you file with me before you apply the Inset so that I can try to replicate your result?

I'm using the latest Beta btw. MoI 4.0 beta Oct-27-2020
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 From:  RD (REDDIAMOND)
10051.7 In reply to 10051.6 
And I separate one for the face (the one highlighted) I get a Calculation Failed error.




Here's the file. Maybe you can look at it and tell what I am doing wrong?

Thank you.

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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
10051.8 In reply to 10051.5 
If that give a false result not separated it's because Size and / or inclined faces are existing!
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 From:  RD (REDDIAMOND)
10051.9 In reply to 10051.8 
It's in the above post, but here it is again.

Thanks!

Edit: I think I have found a bug. I reopened the file I have sent you, and now it's working like in your example.

I just created a new file, created a cube, made an Inset and got errors.

 

Saved it as a .3dm file, re-opened it and re-apply the Inset and it's working.

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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
10051.10 
With your file that works fine 1 to 28 mm ! (without Separate)

You said "found the bug"
What was it? :)

Another thing: better to work with meter with decimals (or without unities) than mm ! (

Take mm then you have all finished...(if you want Dimension for example)
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 From:  RD (REDDIAMOND)
10051.11 In reply to 10051.10 
Actually, with the new file I get an Angle error.

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 From:  RD (REDDIAMOND)
10051.12 
Could you share your file so that I can try to replicate your result? Just a cube with a Chamfer and then I will try to aplly the Inset function to some of the faces.

Thank you.
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 From:  RD (REDDIAMOND)
10051.13 
I have just downloaded the file that I shared with you, the .3dm file, and I can replicate your results (actually not entirely, some of the faces are aligned with neighbor faces like shown before). But if I create a cube from scratch, apply a chamfer, and then try to use the Inset function, I still get the funky results I have posted here. I'm totally puzzled now. LOL.

Looks like the 3dm file format is fixing whatever issue is going on.
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
10051.14 In reply to 10051.12 
That is some curious! What version of MOI do you use ? 4.0 beat for me

I have not your false result but I can't have the normal result (holes merged) they rest separated! :)

When i redraw a volume (Bolean Diff by a segment ) all works like a charm! :)
I will try with the function chamfer!

https://moiscript.weebly.com/uploads/3/9/3/8/3938813/inset_pilou.3dm
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
10051.15 
Yep that is definitively the Chamfer function that gives a bug!!!

Good find!

So make a boolean Diff before Michael makes some reparations! :)
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 From:  RD (REDDIAMOND)
10051.16 In reply to 10051.14 
MoI 4.0 beta Oct-27-2020

I bought the software yesterday. I am not using the Trial version.

How did you cut your cube? I used a Chamfer on one of the edge. Did you Trim it?
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 From:  RD (REDDIAMOND)
10051.17 In reply to 10051.15 
So the bug only occurs when you use a Chamfer. I was not doing a cut using a boolean, like you it seems. That would explain the bug?
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
10051.18 In reply to 10051.16 
Like this: a boolean Diff of a volume by a segment(s) drawn on a face(s)! ;)

Don't forget to kill or Hide the segment(s) before other actions!

If you want keep some volumes use the Boolean Merge...



Here with 2 segments on 2 different faces and Explodemove move after the Boolean Merge or Diff
(Press Tab and write ExplodeMove (with any capital letters but without space ) EXplodeMOve will work E xplodeMove not!
You can also make a shortcut
ExplodeMove (or explodemove... etc)

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 From:  RD (REDDIAMOND)
10051.19 In reply to 10051.18 
Yeah, I know about this workflow. But it seems that the Inset function combined with the Chamfer command is breaking this workflow. I hope that this bug gets fixed, and I am surprised that no one else ever found it. ;)

I do a lot of paneling, and I really hope that this bug gets fixed. How can we make sure that Michael is aware of it? Is he monitoring the forums or should I send him an email?

Thanks a lot btw Pilou for your help. I thought that I was going crazy for a moment. LOL.
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 From:  Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
10051.20 In reply to 10051.19 
Michael reads all posts every days! (but with a little late hours due the Time Zone!
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 From:  Phiro
10051.21 
I think, the problem comes from the chamfer.

If you separate the faces after chamfer and click showpoints for surfaces, you will see the cutting points and surfaces.

To do what you want :
- do your cube
- Chamfer
- delete the top face
- redo the top face
- delete the inclined face
- redo the inclined face

All faces are independant and could be "inseted" as you want.
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