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From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
24 Nov 2019   [#15]
Nobody for my SOS ? Encalaminated in the Sargasso Sea! :)

You will can see easily what are the "holes" !

http://moiscript.weebly.com/biblio-elephant.html
From: James (JFH)
24 Nov 2019   [#16] In reply to [#14]
Wayne,

Thank you so much for your spiral node contribution.
It works perfectly....& multi-processing too!
Great Work.

>> Waiting to see some nodeology art with this new node... <<

I have uploaded a new pattern transition Animation to instagram
utilising your new node: https://www.instagram.com/p/B5QySEDJTIl/

Thanks again,
James
https://www.instagram.com/nodeology/


UPDATED:

PS If I could be so bold as to suggest an improvement, it would be
to remove the "Reverse" checkbox and instead allow negative "Turns" inputs,
with line of code asking something like:
"if turns < 0, then reverse = true, else reverse =false:
turns = abs(turns);"

In this way transitions can go from spiralling in one direction to the other.

A problem that arises with a number of nodes when dialling from a negative number to a positive number (or vice versa) is that a zero input will not be accepted and so an extra line of code would be useful:
"if turns == 0, then turns = 0.001;"

Unfortunately I'm not a coder, so obviously I am not stating that these are 2 lines of javascript, but rather, only their intent.
From: wayne hill (WAYNEHILL5202)
24 Nov 2019   [#17] In reply to [#16]
James,

The nodeology art looks great! The reverse direction should be a easy change.
The division by zero goes off into infinity. It also will be addressed.

Thank you for testing.

Wayne
From: wayne hill (WAYNEHILL5202)
24 Nov 2019   [#18] In reply to [#17]
James,

Updated the Spiral Node for reverse direction (0 or 1). Could you provide more information on the error you are getting with the negative values?

Are you able to enter the same information on the MOI UI for the flat helix without error? This node is using the MOI API for the helix / flat spiral.

Wayne
From: James (JFH)
25 Nov 2019   [#19] In reply to [#18]
Wayne,

>> Could you provide more information on the error you are getting with the negative values? <<

I'm not getting an error message, however the spiral disappears for any "Turns" value less than 0.01 or negative. This is logical for the MoI3d UI but less so for NE particularly with multiprocessing applications.

Have a look at the attached .nod file. It might better explain my meaning from earlier suggestion of improvement to spiral node. Firstly, dial through the GREEN knob from min-max.

In the upper example the spiral disappears when the knob for "Turns" input is dialled below 0.01, whereas the lower example works throughout the range from -5to5 with the addition of a rather clumsy workaround.

It is perhaps not that straightforward, but if you look at the math & compare nodes on the lower example. I was suggesting incorporating analogous code into the Spiral node and removing any reference to "Reverse" from the info panel or the node itself for that matter. Which is to say, that the negative or positive property of the "turns" value, alone, would designate the direction of twist.

Thank you for all your your effort
James
https://www.instagram.com/nodeology/

Attachments:
SpiralWorkAround.nod


From: Karsten (KMRQUS)
25 Nov 2019   [#20] In reply to [#11]
Hello Pilou,

an example of bundleArray - here for points. It takes points from the input and bundle it to packages in the output array. Here the first point of each input and so on.
Works also for numbers and objects.

Have a nice day
and thanks for your work on it!

Karsten

Attachments:
bp.nod


From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
25 Nov 2019   [#21] In reply to [#20]
Thanks...i will see that as soon as possible! :)
From: wayne hill (WAYNEHILL5202)
25 Nov 2019   [#22] In reply to [#19]
James,

Great example of the issue. A solution is being worked on.

Thanks,


Wayne
From: wayne hill (WAYNEHILL5202)
25 Nov 2019   [#23] In reply to [#22]
James,

Updated the Spiral Node. Turn values minus reverses direction. Turn zero values default at .01 for a ... straight arc. ???

Wayne
From: James (JFH)
25 Nov 2019   [#24] In reply to [#23]
Brilliant stuff, Wayne
Works perfectly!

I have updated "Current NODE EDITOR folder" thread accordingly:
http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=9358.1

James
https://www.instagram.com/nodeology/
From: wayne hill (WAYNEHILL5202)
25 Nov 2019   [#25] In reply to [#24]
James,

Thank you!

Wayne
From: James (JFH)
27 Nov 2019   [#26] In reply to [#25]
Wayne,

If you enjoyed contributing the "Spiral" node and are scouting out a new task to sink your teeth into, please have a look at the attached files.

They are the scripting for "SubdivClassic" script, which performs CatmullClark or Planar subdivision of planar polysurfaces. If you are not familiar with the script, here is the original thread posting:
http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=6674.164
(Note that the attached files are more uptodate than those in the thread post)

This functionality would be a supremely useful addition to NE toolbox because the faceting of surfaces provides the underpinnings of a panelling system. That is to say, that each subdivided facet (particularly if constrained to quads) services as a target surface for populating with a unit panel with use of "Flow" node.

No doubt the transposing of a standard UI element such as Spiral tool into a node, is more straightforward, but let me know if this is something you could do.
I would be greatly appreciative of anything that extends the functionality of NE. I feel that my efforts to promote MoI as a viable parametric solution on instagram may be undermined by my starting to repeat myself.

James
https://www.instagram.com/nodeology/

Attachments:
_SubdivClassic.htm


From: mkdm
28 Nov 2019   [#27] In reply to [#26]
Hello James!

From time to tome I take a look at your wonderful creation with NodeEditor...

Almost all are amazing!

It's really a pity that the Node Editor is not part of the standard Moi's package.

I really hoped at some point that Michael and Max could create a sort of collaboration...but never happened.

Moi owes much to Max's plugins...and vice versa :)
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
28 Nov 2019   [#28] In reply to [#27]
<< Node Editor is not part of the standard Moi's package

What is the difference as you can load it any time you want ?
From: mkdm
28 Nov 2019   [#29] In reply to [#28]
Ther's a HUGE difference my friend...

If Node Editor could be part of Moi it means also that it could leverage on the direct support of the main developer, Michael :)

And then we could see great improvements both for Moi and Node Editor.
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
28 Nov 2019   [#30] In reply to [#29]
Not sure he has now free time for that! :)
From: mkdm
28 Nov 2019   [#31] In reply to [#30]
Unfortunately...
From: Michael Gibson
28 Nov 2019   [#32] In reply to [#29]
Hi Marco, yes unfortunately there are only 24 hours in a day. I have to be careful in what I try to accomplish with MoI so that I can make it be a high quality tool. In general things that have a high amount of support time required are less practical for me to focus on.

- Michael
From: James (JFH)
28 Nov 2019   [#33]
LassoSel Node

Marco reminded me of another node that would have great utility: the LassoSel Node.
He has already done much of the coding required in his "Lasso Select and SelectCurveByContainer".
It can be found in this thread including PDF instructions for installation & operation:
http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=8830.1


In essence, any planar shape (circle, polygon or closed curve) would serve as a selection mask.
It would ideally have 2 options:"overlap" (select all objects wholly within the mask only) and "overlay" (select all objects wholly & partially within the mask, like in image below).

James
https://www.instagram.com/nodeology/



PS Thanks Marco, always good to hear from you. Don't be a stranger

Image Attachments:
LassoSel.jpg 


From: mkdm
29 Nov 2019   [#34] In reply to [#32]
Hello Michael. Good to hear you again :)

"Hi Marco, yes unfortunately there are only 24 hours in a day..."

I understand and respect your choice because I know very well the hard life of a software developer and of a "one man" company :)

And unfortunately this is a big limitation in some situation.
It's a situation that have its strength and weakness.

I know very well...it's part of my life too.

I only wanted to say that it's really a pity that a MAGNIFICENT and AMAZING duo like Moi and Max's scripts (above all Node Editor) can't live a shared "story".

I always thought that bringing Node Editor and all Max's SUPERB scripts into the CORE of Moi it could have been a GAME CHANGER for Moi.

Something that could have been RAISED your excellent Moi to a greater, very unique, level.

I know that probably this situation never will and this is unfortunate for all Moi's community.

Ciao and...thanks for your constant support :)

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