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Hi Bob ...
I agree that parametric functions would be great ... but not coming soon.
During design phases with MoI I used incremental save a lot. Then I can at least follow my though flow through the stages of development and paste older ideas into current versions when necessary.
cheers,
eric

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I do the same, but this one project was saved at just the wrong time. There was one significant thing that really needed to be deleted and/or redone and I couldn't, so...

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Hi Bob, yes it's definitely something that I'd like to add but I expect it to be very time consuming. It will be challenging to avoid that same kind of "stuffy suit" feeling that you're talking about. It kind of lends itself to a more planned step by step process.

- Michael

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The "stuffy suit" stuff can wait.

I bought MoI exactly because it wasn't, everything is there, no gazillion scrolling windows and options to waddle through just to get one thing done. MoI is Perfect!

Keep the main idea of Moi alive, If I wanted 3ds Max etc, I would have bought that.


Keep up the great work Michael, I love what you do, don't get talked into making this another "stuffy suit" ;-)

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Hi Death, don't worry - this would be something that I'd want to make as an optional function without disturbing MoI's existing workflow. That's part of what makes it challenging too though.

- Michael

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I'm with Mr. Death,
Please please no parametric/history stuff. Other CAD programs handle that very well and engineering teams can have fun with that all day. MOI is the ONLY CAD/Design software that I can use without ever thinking about where a particular utility is nested, the only CAD program i can put away for 3 months and get right back into it without reorienting myself, and the most intuitive interface ever. MOI never gets in my way. Carry on.

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Yes, I agree wholeheartedly ... dims?
eric

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"Yes, I agree wholeheartedly ... dims?"
for that stuff or parametric, i import my MoI projetc in OnShape (free) and it's cool.

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HI All - I use Solidworks and MOI daily and there are aspects of working in SOLIDWORKS and its parametric environments which work well - many times I get sent other users SOLIDWORKS models with parametric trees longer than your arm. In these cases I export the Solid into MOI and 9 times out 10 can make the changes I require to the solid in MOI faster than trying to recourse someones design flow.

Keep MOI nimble and fast that is where its strength lies - let the others continue on the road to bloatware.

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Hi eric,

re:
> Yes, I agree wholeheartedly ... dims?

They're coming along... I've got some arrowheads that I'm pretty happy with. The main things left are implementing text and also exporting to DXF/PDF/AI formats.

Here's what things look like at the moment:



- Michael

Image Attachments:
eric_dim1.jpg 

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that's great michael. will it be possible to import rhino files with dimensions and have moi be able to display them?

also, i agree with the other comments. there are plenty of mcad programs with parametrics. it's nothing new. it's been out forever. most people that have used them don't like them. that's why they have been working towards at least adding direct modeling to them. it can be nice to add dimensions when needed and not have to remodel the whole project. but it's a difficult thing to implement well. i know you always strive for the best implementation. so i seriously doubt this is something that will come to moi, at least in a short time frame.

my two sense, following the forum a long time. there is always someone who comes on and says i use such and such (usually a poly modeler) and i want moi to act like that. it's very annoying. just use such and such. moi is great as it is. it can't be like every single program that someone happens to use. i don't know why people keep posting the same thing and expect that moi is going to magically be like some random program they use. then when they don't get what they want, they whine and bad mouth moi.

ugggh. rant over.

anthony

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Hi Micheal ...
That's looking really good. I'll be thrilled when it is ready.
cheers,
eric

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The dims are looking good will any linetypes be added to this - centre line dashed marking are pretty useful when exporting dxfs.

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Hi anthony,

re:
> that's great michael. will it be possible to import rhino files with dimensions and have
> moi be able to display them?

Yes, MoI will be able to display dimensions that were created in Rhino but they won't necessarily look exactly the same in MoI as they do in Rhino.

They will round trip back and forth between MoI and Rhino though.

- Michael

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Hi Alex,

> The dims are looking good will any linetypes be added to this - centre line dashed marking
> are pretty useful when exporting dxfs.

I'd like to work on linetypes at some point here but I won't be able to have that in the v4 time frame.

- Michael

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The dimensions in MoI are set up a little different than in Rhino - I'm trying to keep things at a constant display size instead of getting things like huge arrowheads when you zoom in:



- Michael

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Looking good!

There's even some filled shape action going there.

Marc

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Hi Marc, yup that's true the arrowheads are actually filled shapes. But since they're just triangles it's not very exciting in that regard... ;)

But yeah it's coming together pretty well, just need some text display in there to get them in an actual usable state I think.

- Michael

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this is great news. i should be able to completely transition from rhino. i should have known you would be way ahead of the curve on this. the scaling of dimensions in rhino is the first annoyance with trying to use them. also there doesn't seem to be a smart cursor type function with them. so they don't know where they are wrt the others. so they all kind of get haphazardly placed. you also can't move them after you make them. so it's just a mess. i don't think they even work off the grid snap but i could be wrong. i don't recall. i only used it because it was all i had available.

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Hi Anthony, I'm not sure if you'll be able to switch completely from Rhino - if you're doing detailed production drawings Rhino has 50 or so different options for controlling the dimensions appearance which you may still need to use.

However since the dimensions will be able to go back and forth you should be able to do more work with them in MoI and then still use them in Rhino for final drawing output.

- Michael

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