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From: Rainydaylover (DIMITRI)
11 Apr 2018   [#1]
Here I do open a thread to receive opinions on my ring modeling tries. Below is my latest try to achieve something producible. I would like to hear sincere opinions, they may be very precious. There passed some time for learning the use of Moi -I do still consider myself a student though- and now there begin to appear some acceptable results I think. So share your thoughts and criticisms please! : -)

(The rendering has been made in Blender's Cycles renderer.)



Image Attachments:
Ring_i2.jpg  Ring_i2.jpg 


From: mkdm
11 Apr 2018   [#2] In reply to [#1]
Hello Dimitri!

Congratulations :)

It's rather simple but very nice!! I like it.

Thanks for sharing.
From: Rainydaylover (DIMITRI)
11 Apr 2018   [#3]
Thanks Marco! Really, it is a simple design. I focused mainly on achieving something graceful and not, necessarily, something complex in its structure. The precise projections and flows, for making the ornaments' cuts took some time to achieve, but it is ok. Still learning as I said. : - )
From: mkdm
11 Apr 2018   [#4] In reply to [#3]
I like simple things too because "complex" often means "tacky" :)
...especially in jewellery design!

Maybe you could simply add simple cuts and/or indents along the ring body.

But this is only my very personal taste :)
From: Phiro
11 Apr 2018   [#5]
Hi all,

I'm not a jewelry specialist, but it's pretty cool.
The design is nice.
I have a doubt about the fact that the bottom is widened.
Will it be comfortable to wear?
The measures seem a little big, the bottom currently seems to be 7 millimeters, hence my question about comfort.
From: Phiro
11 Apr 2018   [#6]
About "producibility",

You could test this with online 3D printers services like shapeways or sculpteo or i.materialize.
They have automatic tests on the wall thickness, the too small details...

Your model have perhaps problems on wall thickness and this is hard to repair on some softwares.
I don't know if modelers programs, like MoI, have those tests possibilities (wall thickness, small details...).
If someone know it... Thanks to say it...
I'm searching this information too for my creations.

Have fun
From: Rainydaylover (DIMITRI)
11 Apr 2018   [#7]
Phiro, the measure paper floor is put there only for having a nice staging, it does not have to do with the real dimensions of the ring. : -) Now as to the ring's hole, is intended to be some 16 mm. It is true that if sent for printing there will be a need for more precise measurement of its various aspects. But, what do you mean when you refer to 'wall thickness'? Some more explanation?
From: Phiro
11 Apr 2018   [#8]
A wall under 0,8 millimeters (with casting and lost wax) can't be 3D printed without risk of breaking.
Online 3D printers refuse under this limit.
For jewellery, casting is better than sintering for a soft rendering.
My local caster who works for jewellery gave me the same limits (0,8 mm).
I have to take care this limits with my creations.
I think sintering have bigger limits with 1 mm minimal limit.
From: ed (EDDYF)
11 Apr 2018   [#9]
Dimitri -

Great job on the ring. Hopefully you can have it cast and show the results here.

I design and make rings for a living. My technique is a bit different than casting. Because I make rings from titanium, I have to machine them with a CNC lathe and CNC milling machine, rather than cast. That limits me to simpler designs. I use MoI to produce renderings, and I use software I designed to create the G-Code for the machines.

I do use a 3D printer to produce custom ring sizers for customers. Michael wrote a MoI script for me where I create a 2D profile, enter the ring size & width, and MoI builds a set of 5 rings sizers in half-size increments. It's a real time saver. http://moi3d.com/gallery/viewitem.php?id=908

Your ring would also probably do OK on a 3D print. Look at examples printed in metal by Materialise.
https://i.materialise.com/en/shop/category/jewelry/rings
https://i.materialise.com/blog/3d-printed-jewelry/
https://i.materialise.com/blog/best-3d-printed-jewelry-year/
https://i.materialise.com/blog/a-look-into-da-capos-amazing-jewelry/

Ed Ferguson
From: Rainydaylover (DIMITRI)
12 Apr 2018   [#10]
Phiro and Ed, thanks a lot for the so valuable information! Really, the issue of the detail amount on a model that will go for printing is a very important issue. I do not have any experience yet on those matters, I have to do my first tries in printing -I do not have any printer, just thinking to order some on the available web stores- and see what is going on. One reason that I do avoid making too detailed designs is exactly this: not being sure of what the existing, nowadays, printers are capable of.

Below another try, this time even more simple in its design. It is very slightly 'touched' by the deformation cage in Rhino, but other than this everything has been done in Moi:



Image Attachments:
Ring_three parts.jpg  Ring_three parts.jpg 


From: ed (EDDYF)
12 Apr 2018   [#11] In reply to [#10]
The 3D printing services will have Design Guides for each material offered. The guides show minimum wall thickness, minimum hole diameters, minimum clearance between two parts of a model, etc.

An example is here:

https://i.materialise.com/en/3d-printing-materials/design-guides

Ed Ferguson
From: Rainydaylover (DIMITRI)
12 Apr 2018   [#12]
Thanks a lot Ed! As far as I see the detail limits in some materials reach even some 0.25 mm thicknesses. This means that there is a lot of freedom to do highly detailed modeling. Of course, there is the problem of polishing in the cases of too complex details. But, anyway, this is something that can be dealt with a careful planning in design.
From: VG (VEGASGUITARS)
26 May 2018   [#13] In reply to [#1]
Beautifully done! Wow.
From: VG (VEGASGUITARS)
26 May 2018   [#14] In reply to [#10]
Fantastic work!
From: Rainydaylover (DIMITRI)
27 May 2018   [#15]
Thanks Vegasguitars! I am following the discussion going on in your guitars thread! So many things to learn there! : - )

Now that I did see your message it is time to put here another ring making try... working in Moi on simple shaped rings, with smoothly flowing belts and motifs on them, is really a joy! Below there is an experimentation with translucent materials too. Wish to hear opinions from people here... both about the aesthetic side of the results and the technical possibilities of producing them with materials of actual life. Because it is easy to depict them with such materials in digital renderings but I am not so sure if it is possible to produce them in real life too. : - )))

Image Attachments:
Ring with two belts.jpg