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From: Michael Gibson
11 Mar 2018   [#41] In reply to [#40]
Hi Franz, well I'm hoping that could be one part of an extended history function. But that's going to require quite a lot of work to implement so it's rather unlikely for the v4 time frame.

- Michael
From: amur (STEFAN)
12 Mar 2018   [#42]
Hi Franz,

> It is interesting to note that there is actually a spline curve here, where 1 point is alternately arranged on the line, the next one as a > control point.

Because i find this topic quite interesting and i tried it with several apps, i come to the conclusion that for your case
MoI and ArtForm is probably the best solution. I wanted also to try with ViaCAD and 123Design and Fusion 360, but
with ViaCAD and back importing into MoI i get a curve with to many control points and the other two can't import
the curves only from MoI, regardless what exporter i have used.

Can you please confirm my findings:

I created a through point spline in MoI with four points drawn, saved as .3dm and imported into ArtForm.

In ArtForm i used "Curve Edit/Modify/Modify Point on Curve" and i have now the four points, modified one
point and saved as .3dm and imported back into MoI to compare. Perfect result IMHO. :-)

[EDIT] I tested with a curve and more points (15) and then ArtForm shows/uses only 13 points while the
shape is the same. But one can insert points on a curve too, with ArtForm in case it is required.

Regards
Stefan
From: amur (STEFAN)
12 Mar 2018   [#43]
This is most interesting,

that ArtForm uses lesser points on curve than MoI (and some of them are not on the same position)
but the back imported shape is the same.

I tested it again with drawing points in MoI then drawing a curve on them through points
and imported into ArForm to see the difference and finally back to MoI.

testartform

Red original from MoI black import back from ArtForm.

Mo_I_Art_Form

Regards
Stefan
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
12 Mar 2018   [#44] In reply to [#43]
A link of Artform ?
From: amur (STEFAN)
12 Mar 2018   [#45]
???

I thought you have it already on your computer... because you already made things with it and posted here... :-)

Regards
Stefan
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
12 Mar 2018   [#46] In reply to [#45]
Huhu : I had JDSoft-ArtSoft : I believed Artsoft "alone" was another one! :)
From: Franz
12 Mar 2018   [#47] In reply to [#43]
Hi Stefan!

I will try it in your way, here is the wanted function in Qcad (DXF):
So export the curve to DXF, edit it in Qcad and import it again, if you like.
But I think they drew the points earlier in Moi.

Franz


Image Attachments:
Qcad_Spline.gif 


From: amur (STEFAN)
12 Mar 2018   [#48]
Hi Franz,

i also played today with HeeksCAD and it has the function to automatically
create a spline curve from points! :-) But i could not figure out yet how to edit
splines in there and also how to export as step or iges, because no files were written.

Later then i found PolyCAD which also looks very interesting but i have to wait for
the serial.

Regards
Stefan
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
12 Mar 2018   [#49] In reply to [#48]
Don't really understand if it's entierelly free or not ?

In any case seems terrific for boat's hull!


From: amur (STEFAN)
13 Mar 2018   [#50]
Hi Pilou,

yes, it is free, but you must register the software.

Regards
Stefan
From: Ken (OKURO)
13 Mar 2018   [#51] In reply to [#49]
YES: PolyCAD is free:::
http://www.polycad.co.uk

regards
O.
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
13 Mar 2018   [#52]
Thanks! I have a mail from the author Marcus Bole
but alas i had not my glasses when I sent him the Computer key number machine, so i must make it again! :)

PS He don't know Moi3D! So a cool discovery for him!
From: Franz
13 Mar 2018   [#53] In reply to [#42]
Hi Stefan!

Thanks for the tip with ArtForm (3.5).
In my version I cannot import *.3dm, only IGES.
Connot finde in "Curve Edit" the way to /Modify/Modify Point on Curve.
And I had to learn more about working with ArtForm, so I cannot edit points from the curve now.

Sorry, I will try later.
Franz
From: amur (STEFAN)
13 Mar 2018   [#54] In reply to [#53]
Hi Franz,

no problem. In order to do that you have to be in the NURBS Modeler module.

NURBSmodule

Regards
Stefan
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
13 Mar 2018   [#55]
...and right Click on the canvas when you have select what you want and how export! ;)
The format 3dm appears in the popup menu of file saving.
From: Franz
13 Mar 2018   [#56] In reply to [#54]
Hi Stefan!

Thank`s for your help.
I see, it ist really possible with these "sidestep" to ArtForm, to change the curve form with curve points and reimport to moi very quick!

Franz :)!
From: amur (STEFAN)
13 Mar 2018   [#57]
Hi Franz,

:-) yes! ArtForm and MoI is IHMO a very good combination.

Regards
Stefan
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
13 Mar 2018   [#58]
Very cool!
Format IGES in the 2 ways for Moi3D!
So cool for Zebra surface examination!




From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
25 Mar 2018   [#59]
Hocked by PolyCAD I am making the French Site adaption! (will be heavy for sure) :D
A cool thing for understand in deepth this nurbs naval technic!

http://moiscript.weebly.com/polycad1.html

In Moi a cool technic is this one! ;)
http://moiscript.weebly.com/deacuteplacer-des-objets.html

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