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From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
26 Feb 2018   [#61]
Why not try my first little tricks ?
Seems you can control all that you want! :)
And it's pure Nurbs!
http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=8847.1

PS That works also on SUbD result! ;)


From: amur (STEFAN)
1 Mar 2018   [#62] In reply to [#59]
Hi Franz,

you have more control with your model if you can add more edge loops.
Max's split command, for his subd script, does this.



Regards
Stefan

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Bildschirmfoto 2018-03-01 um 07.46.36.png 


From: Franz
1 Mar 2018   [#63] In reply to [#62]
Thank you, stefan.
I may just need to understand what is really important when using SubD. I will try again....

Best regards
Franz
From: mkdm
1 Mar 2018   [#64] In reply to [#63]
Hello Franz!

@You : "...I may just need to understand what is really important when using SubD...."

Simple....two things :

1) Create only quad polygons and a very few triangles. No polygons that has more than 4 edges if you really want good results.
Ok, if you know that some particular area of the object will not be framed by the camera then you can do what you for with that area,
but if something has to be viewed by the camera and/or close to it you must have quads if you want good results when subdiv.

2) Create edge loops only where you need it.

But these two points are not simple. You need years of experience :)

Ciao!

Marco (mkdm)
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
1 Mar 2018   [#65]
If that can help :)

As a form like this can't be SuDivided directly (Top face more than 5 edges)

Use SSPlit for trim
Use SBridge for "Blend Faces" only 2 by 2
Use _SUbD for SubDivide



Copy / Move faces
Bridge them



Extrude to Point or Nsided (kill the caps before) can be used for simple form :)

From: Franz
1 Mar 2018   [#66] In reply to [#65]
Thank You all!

Valuable tips. I tried a little bit and got closer to the goal.




I have another question. With SSplit it doesn't work with create and move position with one point.
The position of the split edge can only be adjusted with the slider.



How do you do it, Pilou?





Regards from
Franz

Image Attachments:
Form_SubD3.jpg  Ssplit.jpg  Ssplit_Pilou.jpg 


From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
1 Mar 2018   [#67] In reply to [#66]
<< How do you do it, Pilou?
I have not your Box Dialog for this sort of "trim" section segment wanted! :)

I have just a ShortCut "P" for the plugin _SSplit of Max Smirnov
http://moi3d.com/forum/index.php?webtag=MOI&msg=6674.254

So on a rectangular box (as shown on the video)

Function call a Face(s) or a segment...so

I click on a segment (so pre-selection) then Press "P"

For a vertical "trim" select an horizontal segment and you can move your vertical "section"!
Select a segment etc...

Of course if you want an horizontal "trim" select a vertical segment and move your horizontal "section" ! :)

Of course after one apply section you can just select a segment and Richt Click (recall last function) or Press "P" as yo want!

You must "bridged" faces for have this subdivided volume! If you make extrude you will have separated subdivided volumes!

PS If you select a Face I have your Box Dialog for input quadrangular faces on the selected face(s)!

I don't know if "trim section" is the good words ... "subdivided section" ? ...
From: Franz
1 Mar 2018   [#68] In reply to [#67]
Hi Pilou!

I had an old version from sSplit, now I updated.

Thanks for the link, Franz
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
1 Mar 2018   [#69] In reply to [#68]
These plugins (SSplit, SBridge, SSCale, SubD ) is a true gem! :)

Bravo to MAX !

Just if "snap" during the move of the segment section will existing that will be gorgeous! But not vital for organic volumes! :)
From: Franz
2 Mar 2018   [#70] In reply to [#69]
Hi Pilou!

I tried to insert the older version sSplit. v. 0.6.2015.03.26 with a renaming to sSplit_old next to the new version.
But only the newer version works, maybe something would have to be changed in the files sSplit_old. The old version would have the additional effect that you could work with equal values for a cube (10,90 or 30,70) to get a symmetry.
(Because of missing snaps).
We can't thank Max enough, I agree.
This forum is full of extraordinary people.

Franz
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
2 Mar 2018   [#71] In reply to [#70]
Seems I use also the last version of 2015 ;)
http://moi.maxsm.net/files/scripts/sSplit.v.0.95.2015.08.10.zip
From: Franz
2 Mar 2018   [#72] In reply to [#71]
Hi Pilou!
Before I have not seen the counter, so I can also reach symmetry.
That's actually enough.
Thanks for the tip with the points shift, it is getting better and more controllable. Great!
Franz








Image Attachments:
Form_SubD4.jpg  Form_SubD4_.jpg  sSplit_.jpg 


From: amur (STEFAN)
23 Jun 2018   [#73]
Hi Pilou and Franz,

just figured out that the free SurfMill 8.0 Pro has in it's NURBS modeler module
also a Deformation palette, with a lot of flow commands.... ;-)

And a new UI too! :-)

http://bbs.jingdiaosoft.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=5056&extra=page%3D1

deformation
gif image hosting

Regards
Stefan
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
23 Jun 2018   [#74] In reply to [#73]
So after ArtForm ...SurfMill !
it's endless... :)
From: chrisd (CHRIS_DORDONI)
23 Jun 2018   [#75] In reply to [#73]
This is different, or improved over ArtForm?
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
23 Jun 2018   [#76]
...And same Installation ?
From: amur (STEFAN)
23 Jun 2018   [#77]
@Chris it has the Deformation palette, which ArtForm does not have.
I am also not quite sure why they have SurfMill with the same modules
as ArtForm, maybe it is more specialized in the CNC module, i don't know.

@Pilou it is the same installation procedure. Very easy. :-)

Regards
Stefan
From: Frenchy Pilou (PILOU)
23 Jun 2018   [#78] In reply to [#77]
Ah yes the same Chiness headache! :)
From: Franz
24 Jun 2018   [#79] In reply to [#77]
Hi Stefan!

Thanks, I already got it down here.
Now I only have to play with it.
I think I need a course...

Franz
From: amur (STEFAN)
25 Jun 2018   [#80]
Hi Franz,

yes, that is a little problematic to have an (English) course...

If you like to learn sculpting with it then you have to watch
the many JDPaint tutorials on Youtube or youku.com. To bad
that only people in China, Vietnam and Russia are using the
software, which makes it difficult to understand the tutorials.

Regards
Stefan

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